Pentagon memo details plan to train over 20,000 national guard members across the US to carry out Trump’s order on subduing civil unrest

  • FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    ·
    edit-2
    19 hours ago

    P25 was hoping people would be rioting by now and they keep upping the ante to try to get people to do it.

    However, if people did start to revolt, I doubt it would stop in the streets. It would be a multiple front effort, from digital, physical, and media fronts. The military lacks the resources to control the whole country and I honestly doubt that the American military is completely on Trump’s side .

    And the current administration is dumb as fuck. They do not have the wherewithal to carry out martial law effectively. Trump is just doing his best to distract us from the Epstein files, his current shutdown failings, his ballroom, his crypto fraud, etc

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      9 hours ago

      thats why propaganda is useful in pacifying people, especially conservatives, they dont want to thier own supports to uprise as well.

    • tedd_deireadh@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      18 hours ago

      I thought the same way until I read about the 2024 Venezuela presidential election.

      Maduro created an alternative government body to subvert the existing parliament and had judges on his side that said it was legal for him to do this. That allowed him to consolidate more power and further secure his position as a dictator.

      Even though everyone in Venezuela and across the world can see this blatant corruption, there’s little the people can legally do about it, because the government doesn’t work for them anymore. And you can see similar things happening in America. The gerrymandering of states, the use of military force on the citizenry, the threats of changing electoral laws, etc.

      It happened there, and it can definitely happen here if we let it. That’s why its important we continue to protest, stand up, and make our voices heard lest we wind up like Venezuela or worse. That needs to be our cautionary tale, not our playbook.

      • FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        15 hours ago

        120 guns per 100 people in the US. Venezuela? 18.5 guns per 100 people.

        I’m not saying it would or should come to that, but if it did Americans are armed.

        • tedd_deireadh@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          12 hours ago

          I think that’s a good point. Americans are heavily armed and those that are generally know how to use them, however a gun alone is not enough. You need to have the will and desire to use it.

          How many Americans do you believe will do that?

          How many Americans could even hold their own against a lightly armored squad?

          I just don’t believe in the fantasy of American citizens fighting the US government with their pistols and hunting rifles. I think that’s a story they sell us to make us feel like we have power.

      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        16 hours ago

        At some point we need to just accept this is an inevitability and plan strategy with that in mind. Avoiding providing anything that could be justification can be useful to but time and build support or preparations, but it’s not a stance that can just work indefinitely, because they will simply keep doing more extreme actions to try to provoke a reaction. Even if it takes public executions by masked agents of the regime to finally trigger the response, if they want to make violence happen, they can.