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    what the heck are they even talking about? Which 8 wars? And isn’t he trying to start a war with Venezuela? This is total BS, afaik.

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      He’s trying to take credit for:

      1. Israel and Iran
      2. Cambodia and Thailand
      3. India and Pakistan
      4. Rwanda and Democratic Republic of Congo
      5. Armenia and Azerbaijan
      6. Egypt and Ethiopia
      7. Serbia and Kosovo
      8. Israel and Hamas

      While some did have diplomatic breakthroughs some of the fighting hasn’t stopped and some countries said he had nothing to do with it. Granted he will never say anything about the ones that are still fighting.

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        Israel and Hamas

        Sweet Satan, I hate that framing. It’s Israel and Palestine. They aren’t at war with “Hamas”, they’re at war with the Palestinian people.

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          Would you say the Palestinian people are also at war with Israel? I wouldn’t say so. They’re sitting ducks. They are innocent bystanders being slaughtered. That’s no war. The war is between Hamas and Israel, but Israel is punishing all of Palestine. That’s my take at least. Maybe I’m misinformed.

          What it is is a genocide.

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            It can be both a genocide and a war. Hamas is the de facto government of that territory and represents the Palestinian people in Gaza. There was fighting between Organized and ranked Hamas Military forces and IDF right up until the last ceasefire.

            The genocide was a result of the targeting civilians as part of the war, breaking rules of war.

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              Hamas […] represents the Palestinian people in Gaza.

              Do they really though? Kind of like Trump represents the people of America?

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                There is argument to be had I guess but I would say yes they do. They have been governing the strip for close to two decades and have popular support from the population even post oct 7th. After the latest ceasefire they still de facto govern the strip.

                I would say Trump represents the people of America as well. He is the elected leader and his views may not represent all the citizens but his actions are the actions of America.

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          While technically correct, I would still refrain from calling an attempted eradication a war.

          Just going to once again plug that Hamas is the name of the publicly elected government of the territories of Palestine, elected in 2006 to help restore order after the third-to-last “war” with Israelis.

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            It’s Israel’s framing because

            A) They don’t believe that Palestine exists

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            B) Nobody likes Hamas, so an Israel v. Hamas war sounds much more positive, even though the vast majority of people being killed have nothing to do with Hamas.

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          I have no horse in the race with Israel and Palestine. Hamas committed absolute terrorist attacks unprovoked (debatable but I’m sure you know what I mean). Now if you’re saying it’s not Israel V Hamas, then I guess you’re saying that Palestine itself committed those terrorist attacks?

          You can’t have it both ways, it’s a very complicated fight that Israel has stepped way over the mark of what was reasonable retaliation, but to say it’s Palestine the country, paints a darker picture and damages the credibility that this is a genocide.

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        This is a great chance to make MAGA feel dumb. Ask them what 8 wars. Make them do research. Doubt it was actually 8 wars and insist he only made 1 ceasefire that didn’t last a week.

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        And most of those aren’t ears, just conflicts which MIGHT become a war if nothing changes.

        With that loose a definition I just fixed like a hundred wars in this year alone, I should be the Nobel peace prize

        Having said that…

        This is a corrupt psychopath asshole whose only reason for wanting this nobel prize is narcissism. He and his family havr stolen so much from all of his own charities that he isn’t allowed to have charities anymore. All of his businesses have some scam or another attached to it, this is just your average asshole used car dealer with an extremely bad taste. Let’s give HIM a Nobel prize?

        I know that this Rep is only saying this to better her position, even though Luna is a Spanish last name, perra hipócrita, and I fully expect that once trump is gone, and he will be gone, that all these assholes will be jailed, this bitch included. You buttered up to trump for political favors? Jail. Throw away the key.

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        There’s also the ones that he ended that never started because he’s addled:

        Aberbaijan and Albania

        Cambodia and Armenia

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        he will never say anything about the ones that are still fighting

        He will never say anything about being played for an absolute fool by Putin. Fucking dumbass orange man.