It has come to my attention that there is some minor unrest on Hexbear due to statements they believe I made that they did not appreciate. there has been some small misunderstanding regarding them, so allow me, dear reader, to make my position clear so these terrible rumors can be put to rest.
some time ago, another user on our matrix asked for tips on trolling Hexbear in their communities. specifically, they asked what might be said that would garner the most rage. as I generally consider myself to be the obliging sort, I offered what pearls of wisdom I could.
now, a thoughtful reader might wonder why I didn’t react with abject horror at the idea of someone trolling Hexbear, for that, I can only say that perhaps I thought it was proper comuppence for the brigading and harassment Hexbear used to perpetrate across the fediverse.
but I digress. the specific pearls of wisdom I offered were as such.
le gasp! how terrible! what scoundrel, what worthless cur would say that the soviet civilians deserved such a fate! genocide! fascist! liberal!
as you might have guess, discerning reader, Hexbear posits that such a scoundrel is me. they insist, that by saying the soviets deserved what they got, that I am actively supporting the genocide of twenty-seven million civilians. there are two problems with this, however.
one, I never said civilians. this is a word put into my mouth by tankies that are too fucking stupid to understand plain english. one would think that it is pretty obvious that it wasn’t some poor farmer that was invading Poland for profit, but if one were to think such, then one wouldn’t be a braindead tankie shitstain, and would instead be someone at least capable of the level of higher thought that evolution gave a jellyfish. it’s pretty obvious to normal people that the ones gleefully invading other countries alongside the nazis were, in fact, soldiers. here they were at least right when they assumed I was gleefully celebrating the deaths of those soldiers. they fought with the nazis, they invaded other countries, and they don’t get to absolve themselves of working with the nazis just because hitler turned on them, and tankies think that the country that supposedly single-handily fought and won WW2 are also the poor victims of the war, who had no choice in their actions.
two, there were no soviet civilians, merely innocent asian/eastern european souls that were held hostage by the soviet oligarchy and forced into starvation and destitution by an authoritarian system that valued propaganda more than human beings. the vast majority of those people probably would not have chosen to live in a dystopian hellhole were they given a chance, any more than the average North Korean wants to starve to death under the Kims. they were as much soviets as you or I, merely people with no freedom, and no other option but to live under the crushing boot of the imperialist USSR. they didn’t help the nazis, because they were powerless in the face of the state.
neither of these two points has stopped Hexbear from whipping themselves into a frothing echo chamber of self-righteous disgust and anger, and demanding that I be removed from my mod positions and banned. a demand which has, so far, fallen on deaf ears that are used to the utter bullshit so often spewed by these feckless internet warriors. if there was an award for arguing in bad faith, we all know the reeking denizens of the lower planes we all colloquially call The Triad would win it.
as you probably have gathered by now, this is not an apology. I did not do anything wrong, especially not what they have accused me of, and so I will not apologize for it. not that they would be willing to consider such an apology anyway, because for them there is only one truth, and that is that they are always right, and everyone who is not them is an enemy and always wrong.
now, they have banned me, and so they can’t see this, so I will instead tag @[email protected], a known affiliate of these heathens, who spent three paragraphs the other day downplaying the persecution of LGBT+ in the USSR before grudgingly using a mere two sentences in admitting the treatment.
my one regret, of course, is that since I have now blocked everyone from The Triad, I won’t be able to read the no doubt angry replies they are fiercely typing out, in which they’ll likely pour over my history to try and find something they can spin as damning evidence to back up their preconceptions. actually, now that I consider it, I find I don’t regret that at all.
in conclusion, I want to say thank you to the comrades that have supported me through these almost trying times, fuck you to the haters who want to be me, and thank you to the haters who made the thread about me on c/Slop like I asked. you’re the real MVP!
My bad, I assumed since you had already taken part in the c/Slop thread and propagated this ridiculous lie about me, that you wouldn’t mind further involvement in it.
I didn’t propogate any lies, when you say “the 27 million soviets deserved it” then that goes well beyond anarchist critique of the USSR and straight into support for genocide. 14 million is the most common estimate out of those 27 million that were civilians, even if we took the (wrong) stance that the Red Army was evil, they made up less than half of those you said "deserved it." The soviets were multinational peoples, many of which were specifically targeted by the Nazis as a part of the holocaust.
I really don’t care for getting into the weeds in this thread. What’s true is that you did say 14 million civilian non-combatants deserved to be used as bloodbags for Nazis, shot, starved, and tortured. This statement was so bad it even got your comment removed from Lemmy.world, which we all know is a liberal hellscape. I encourage you to do some major self-crit, this is clearly unhealthy behavior.
I assumed that 27 million was the number of soldiers, but even if the number is 13 million soldiers dead, that’s not genocide. you can’t invade other countries, purposefully throw your soldiers into a meat grinder so you can look good and say you didn’t lose, then whine about how your military is being “genocided”.
I don’t feel bad for the soviet solders any more than I feel bad for the russian soldiers in ukraine right now. they choose to be there by not surrendering or turning on their officers. if they get wiped out to the last man, that’s on them. they deserve what they’re getting for invading another country, the same way the US deserved what it got in iraq and afganistan.
not once have I ever said that. that’s just your average tankie misrepresentation. you’re making shit up because you would rather have something to whine about in c/Slop.
You think Soviet soldiers deserved to die because they didn’t surrender to the Nazis…
Holy shit, you really are a Nazi apologist
You said the 27 million soviets that died deserved it. Everyone in that thread was including the civilian deaths, because civilians outnumbered the deaths of the soldiers. There was no “meat-grinder” that the soviets were throwing people into to “look good,” it was a war of existence for the soviets. POWs, when they were taken by the Nazis, were subject to especially brutal treatment compared to POWs taken from the French, British, Statesians, and more, because the various soviet ethnicities were seen as ethnically inferior while the western European allies were seen more as equals by the Nazis.
Nothing here is a lie, nobody else is responsible for your misinterpretation. Taken even with the most charitable, good-faith interpretation possible, you’re still saying the communists deserved to take by far the hardest brunt of the Nazi onslaught and deserved to pay by far the highest price while the western allies who had been on far friendlier terms and even were covering for private investments such as from Ford during the war got away with far more minimal damage.
Again, do some self-crit. This goes well-beyond anarchist critique of Marxism and fully into reactionary nonsense.
ironic that you are currently talking in a comm called Slop, because like chatgpt, tankies have a hallucination problem. I never once said anything about civilians, and no matter how hard you wish it, you can’t edit my posts to make it say that either.
yeah, I’m sure it was for survival that stalin killed what, two million of his soldiers for a city he named after himself? definitely no deaths for one man’s vanity in that war.
i’ve never met a tankie capable of anything in good faith. certainly not when it comes to anarchists, which you’ve been murdering for as long as we’ve been helping you. you’re not psychically capable of even considering the smallest possibility that you could be wrong.
but enough is enough, I suppose. I’ve had .ML unblocked for long enough I’m starting to smell the anti-LGBT+ taint from here, so I’m blocking you all again. enjoy the circle-jerking in c/Slop you claim to hate so much. it’s gonna keep me warm tonight knowing I’ll always be on your mind.
ta-ta for now!
This is just more drama-baiting, I already explained clearly why everyone interpreted you as saying the civilians deserved it was because the number discussed was over half civilian. The rest of your comment is just creating a strawman of me, clearly bad-faith (I’m queer myself and you misgendered me originally, even if you apologized), and then running off. What’s your point?
Mad respect for your clear setting of boundaries and not getting baited into an argument/debate you specifically said you refused to have.
I can’t help but feel you’re being sarcastic because I did get a bit swept up, even if I tried not to be, but thanks if you’re being genuine!
Honestly this petty drama mostly comes from a handful of users, most people are more chill.
Yes, exactly, it’s all so pointless. The manufactured outrage, polemic arguments, and bad faith takes on both sides is nothing but a waste of time and effort. Particularly when it’s over grievances that happened generations ago. It really shouldn’t surprise anyone that a lot of anarchists hate stalin’s ussr and regard the molotov–ribbentrop pact as a disgrace. And yes, it was also disgraceful that european leaders spurned a deal with the soviets to counter hitler when one was on the table. We don’t need to re-litigate the whole topic because I know we view this differently.
There was simply no need for it to descend into an self-indulgent orgy of manufactured outrage over this topic as happened in c/slop - but that’s kind of their MO I guess (free tagline? lol). And crytagion and kittyroll did kick all this off, so they brought it on themselves and I don’t have much sympathy for them. But why bother going through the same old motions with nothing to show for it? I’ve refrained from responding to questions in c/slop because its completely obvious it would turn out badly, no matter what I said in there.
I honestly like having some ml and hexbear users around our instance nowadays, including yourself, because they often have some good takes, deep historical knowledge, and good humour. But they have to appreciate that most of our users are not very sympathetic towards the USSR (particularly during the stalinist period) or to modern day russia either because of, you know, the whole authoritarian dictator thing. Again, surprising nobody I would have thought. But there’s also a whole bunch of stuff we do agree on. I think as a matter of inter-instance harmony, there are some hot button issues that are best avoided when posting on an external instance.
Do you have any ideas how to defuse or avoid these situations in future? I’m open to suggestions.
No sorry, not trying to be sarcastic at all! You started responding to some of the things op said, then in the comment I replied to pulled back and reinforced the fact that you weren’t playing that game with them. I was expecting the conversation to get more heated, with longer and longer circular replies saying the same shit back and forth from both of yall, and was pleasantly surprised to see you hard stop entertaining that bullshit.
Hey, while you’ve unblocked .ml, I just want to slip something in:
You’re weak as hell.