Yeah, I don’t know what’s going on here. Looks like a mod having a breakdown. I posted the rest for context and I’m in the middle.
I got linked to the comment chain from elsewhere. The comment had a link to a tech dude’s blog, supposed to point out his white supremecism. I didn’t see anything bad in that article, but stumbled on another one with nazi apologia, thought they may have linked the wrong article, posted it. That’s it. That’s all I did.
I guess it is called awful.systems and the culture confuses me, but man, what a dick move to call me a facist in the modlog.
If nothing else, I hope this drama is entertaining.
Edit: Because this is, well, the internet: I was not defending DHH. Another removed/banned comment said they couldn’t find anything bad in that link either, so I found one where DHH was being more blatant in his bullshit.
Yeah I blocked that instance since time back, their takes (and attitudes) were generally as awful as the systems they complain about
They are just assholes. Its really simple. You don’t want to be there.
A.S Has a very itchy ban finger generally and often assumes everyone is as knowledgeable as them so they tend to see behavior like yours as deliberate trolling (or in your case, likely crypto-fascism). It’s really the sort of place one needs to “lurk moar” before interacting. I personally don’t like how hostile their instance treats people stumbling in, because it often causes drama and false positives like this, but OTOH this allows them to run a tight ship and not have to deal with cryptofash and libertarian shite which can be exhausting.
Ultimately it is what it is and A.S has a tiny impact on the threadiverse relatively. Other than that I agree that it’s not cool to label people fascists at the drop of a hat in the modlog but perhaps their admins will pop in and explain if they saw actual fash behaviour.
I can see that, and thanks for the explanation. I clicked around a bit after to double-check rules and see if I got the context wrong. But yeah, seems like it was my inexperience with the community and aggressive modding.
Got a perma ban from there for reporting another user that jumped straight to cussing me out after I gently corrected a typo they made. Ended up with a ban because (shockingly) another user also found that disproportionate and reported as well, and the admin accused us of collaborative “spurious reporting” 🙄 They also hid it from the modlog somehow/for some reason. Found that pretty sketchy.
Sounds like a pretty
Awful
System of communities
It’s standard lemmy behaviour. If you ban with content removal, the removed content doesn’t make a modlog entry
And of course mod names (not even aliases) go on the mod log, which is cool and good. At this point why does it even exist?
They do, it’s just lemmy hiding the mod usernames for normal users. Admins can see the moderator names in the mod log.
That’s still shitty. More deliberately but less terminally.
it bugs me. language is imprecise and sometimes you get banned and the ban reason doesn’t, in your head, map to what you were saying. and then that changes how anyone who looks you up thinks you think. i’d much rather have a system that makes it clear what exactly you said and what the problem was
It might be good to have the option of a right of reply in the modlog for the person being moderated, for each mod action?
Didn’t/aren’t the devs so anti accountability now that they don’t even want mods names connected with actions?
*shrug* All I know is any other ban or comment removal I’ve seen on my accounts has been accompanied by modlog entries.
What you said in the context you gave and the words in your removed comment track, so I’m gonna say PTB.
Thanks, yo.
I even posted my old account info on my profile page when I joined a new instance, for transparency, with a comment history going back more than two years, showing I’m way more of a chronically online queer socialist.
I’ve never been banned for (supposedly) being a fascist… but I’ve been banned plenty of times by shitlibs for (supposedly) being a tankie.
what a dick move to call me a facist in the modlog
Welcome to the club. Mods claiming people are fascists in public places they can’t defend themselves seems to be a common occurrence here.
It’s fucking weird how that word gets used against everyone and everything on this platform.
I got banned with “fascist” as the only notes because I said tiananmen square happened. That’s all. Didn’t deny it, or say 100 million were killed in it. Just that the event as described happened.
If you have a single original thought that isn’t 99% aligned with the mods on users of that instance, that’s what happens, you’re fascist /s
I’m in. As long as there’s snacks at the meetings.
plenty of Lemmy instances love calling fact checking and sources “Facism”
Defending DHH? Seems justified from the mod :)
I posted an article confirming he’s a piece of shit.
Was the original article the one talking about how its a problem that London is becoming less white?
No, it was a generic message about work on systems and moving platforms.
Ahh. Looks like anyone spreading links to fascist propaganda is being called a fascist?
I guess we’re not supposed to show how facists are being facists when people ask to show them the facism.
Correct. You don’t need to spread obscure blogs that push fascist ideology. OTOH, calling you a fascist seems like a really bad way of explaining that.
Calling out fascism is now fascism? What is antifascism now, ignoring them until it’s too late?
I disagree. The blog was already linked in the comment I responded to. Another user, who didn’t know about DHH’s bullshit, asked what was so bad about the benign article linked. I didn’t know if OP was being a shithead or just linked the wrong article, so I was saying “this guy is a dick because he said this.”
Propaganda doesn’t stop existing when the people who know better pretend it’s not there. I believe in bringing receipts when making a claim.
hey’s blog is hardly what i’d consider obscure, and the alternative to providing evidence that someone is a fascist is just assuming whatever anyone says about anyone is true, which is normalizing defamation and libel. i don’t love either that presenting evidence of fascism allows fascism to attach its propaganda to what’s being said, but i think the alternative is worse.
better is to conextualize and educate. say “here is what was said, and why it’s a problem.” not discussing dogwhistles and why they’re problems only lets them spread farther without anyone knowing the truth about them, even if they spread less far. in other words: they become more effective if you ignore them.
i think it’s a very hard balance to strike but we have to put in the effort to do it rather than having faith people will act right. worldwide, authoritarianism is on the rise. fascists have the mic. we don’t have the luxury of trust people to be educated to recognize what they see without providing context
Are you literally stupid?
Yes, why?
i laughed
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