If you think for a split second that we “share views except for voting” you truly are out of your depth.
One of us is a socialist. The other is what we can only assume is a SocDem, otherwise known as a liberal, or as you’ve just recently learned, a capitalist. We believe in completely different things. The rich part is how you think you’re on the left yet have zero understanding of where the line actually is.
Also, I know you read an LLM summary of Reform or Revolution. You’re intellectually bankrupt and politically confused. And also completely owned. Are you going to revert back to dropping “lol” soon?
Do you notice that your responses ignore almost the entirety of mine? Do you notice that almost every single thing you’ve said thus far is an insult? Do you notice that you are creating a narrative of myself that doesn’t line up with what I’m saying? Do you know how to structure an argument? Do you know how to explain your own opinion?
I’d like to have a genuine discussion about your opinion, but you don’t seem capable of that.
Also, I actually did read Reform or Revolution. I took a good hour and a half out of my day to do it. And I only responded “lol” when you lost your composure and started responding with zero substance. If you can’t be bothered to hold your end of a conversation, even to the insanely low standards you have been thus far, why would I put any effort into a real response?
No, you were not right. I’m a Socialist through and through. Nothing good can come from capitalism or a democratic republic. I just feel that I have a have a moral obligation to do what I can to save innocent lives, especially if all it takes is to swallow my pride and disdain for the game I am forced to play and check a box. As the very document you had me read suggests, I don’t believe the system can be changed from within. The system needs to be dismantled from the outside. I feel like a broken record because I’ve already stated all of this.
A socialist who advocates entryism into US electoral politics is confused and probably not a socialist. You haven’t even heard of Luxemburg’s essay, a staple of early reading lists. Have you consumed any socialist theory, not through an LLM? What in your head makes you a socialist in the same breath you, in your own words, vote for genocide of the Palestinian people?
Is it Gavin? Kamala? Who’s next? You’re a Westerner roleplaying as a leftist. You will never convince a leftist to sponsor a genocide like you have. It’s not happening now, or ever. The idea that you see benefit in voting for a genocidal administration means you’re so much farther right than you’ll probably ever realize. Your harm reduction theory will go down in history as complicity.
You respond so angrily and accusatorily. Why would I reply with an lol if you are actually making an attempt at communication? Why do you assume I use LLMs? I have given zero indication that either of those beliefs would be true. You are showing yourself to be someone that comes up with a view that you don’t change despite all signs pointing to it being wrong. Either you are a troll, or your preferred method of discussion is to speak loudly with fingers in your ears.
I’ve read plenty of socialist theory, but I have never gone through a socialist reading list. Plenty of derivative works cover the same stuff as that pamphlet.
And again, you seem to be purposefully ignoring my point, likely because you’ve already decided what you think I believe, and are unwilling to change that view despite me telling you you are wrong.
I don’t advocate for any candidates on either side. There is no candidate that I back. If I could start the revolution myself tomorrow, I would. But I can’t. No one can. The way I see it, the revolution won’t come due to who you do or do not vote for. If you disagree, explain why. Tell me, what are you accomplishing by not voting? That’s what I’ve been asking since the very beginning, and yet you, for some reason, choose to continue being uncouth and not actually engaging in this conversation.
If you think for a split second that we “share views except for voting” you truly are out of your depth.
One of us is a socialist. The other is what we can only assume is a SocDem, otherwise known as a liberal, or as you’ve just recently learned, a capitalist. We believe in completely different things. The rich part is how you think you’re on the left yet have zero understanding of where the line actually is.
Also, I know you read an LLM summary of Reform or Revolution. You’re intellectually bankrupt and politically confused. And also completely owned. Are you going to revert back to dropping “lol” soon?
Do you notice that your responses ignore almost the entirety of mine? Do you notice that almost every single thing you’ve said thus far is an insult? Do you notice that you are creating a narrative of myself that doesn’t line up with what I’m saying? Do you know how to structure an argument? Do you know how to explain your own opinion? I’d like to have a genuine discussion about your opinion, but you don’t seem capable of that.
Also, I actually did read Reform or Revolution. I took a good hour and a half out of my day to do it. And I only responded “lol” when you lost your composure and started responding with zero substance. If you can’t be bothered to hold your end of a conversation, even to the insanely low standards you have been thus far, why would I put any effort into a real response?
Are you a SocDem? Was I right?
No, you were not right. I’m a Socialist through and through. Nothing good can come from capitalism or a democratic republic. I just feel that I have a have a moral obligation to do what I can to save innocent lives, especially if all it takes is to swallow my pride and disdain for the game I am forced to play and check a box. As the very document you had me read suggests, I don’t believe the system can be changed from within. The system needs to be dismantled from the outside. I feel like a broken record because I’ve already stated all of this.
A socialist who advocates entryism into US electoral politics is confused and probably not a socialist. You haven’t even heard of Luxemburg’s essay, a staple of early reading lists. Have you consumed any socialist theory, not through an LLM? What in your head makes you a socialist in the same breath you, in your own words, vote for genocide of the Palestinian people?
Is it Gavin? Kamala? Who’s next? You’re a Westerner roleplaying as a leftist. You will never convince a leftist to sponsor a genocide like you have. It’s not happening now, or ever. The idea that you see benefit in voting for a genocidal administration means you’re so much farther right than you’ll probably ever realize. Your harm reduction theory will go down in history as complicity.
Time for a “lol”?
You respond so angrily and accusatorily. Why would I reply with an lol if you are actually making an attempt at communication? Why do you assume I use LLMs? I have given zero indication that either of those beliefs would be true. You are showing yourself to be someone that comes up with a view that you don’t change despite all signs pointing to it being wrong. Either you are a troll, or your preferred method of discussion is to speak loudly with fingers in your ears.
I’ve read plenty of socialist theory, but I have never gone through a socialist reading list. Plenty of derivative works cover the same stuff as that pamphlet.
And again, you seem to be purposefully ignoring my point, likely because you’ve already decided what you think I believe, and are unwilling to change that view despite me telling you you are wrong.
I don’t advocate for any candidates on either side. There is no candidate that I back. If I could start the revolution myself tomorrow, I would. But I can’t. No one can. The way I see it, the revolution won’t come due to who you do or do not vote for. If you disagree, explain why. Tell me, what are you accomplishing by not voting? That’s what I’ve been asking since the very beginning, and yet you, for some reason, choose to continue being uncouth and not actually engaging in this conversation.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with refusing to sponsor genocide, and everything wrong with the opposite.
You are a confused SocDem who readily admits to intentionally voting for genocide. To not antagonize you would be a failure of ethics.
I just want to understand your stance. What are you accomplishing by not voting?
What did you accomplish by voting? You sold your soul for a game you didn’t even win. It’s no wonder you’re so agitated by my ethics.