No, you were not right. I’m a Socialist through and through. Nothing good can come from capitalism or a democratic republic. I just feel that I have a have a moral obligation to do what I can to save innocent lives, especially if all it takes is to swallow my pride and disdain for the game I am forced to play and check a box. As the very document you had me read suggests, I don’t believe the system can be changed from within. The system needs to be dismantled from the outside. I feel like a broken record because I’ve already stated all of this.
A socialist who advocates entryism into US electoral politics is confused and probably not a socialist. You haven’t even heard of Luxemburg’s essay, a staple of early reading lists. Have you consumed any socialist theory, not through an LLM? What in your head makes you a socialist in the same breath you, in your own words, vote for genocide of the Palestinian people?
Is it Gavin? Kamala? Who’s next? You’re a Westerner roleplaying as a leftist. You will never convince a leftist to sponsor a genocide like you have. It’s not happening now, or ever. The idea that you see benefit in voting for a genocidal administration means you’re so much farther right than you’ll probably ever realize. Your harm reduction theory will go down in history as complicity.
You respond so angrily and accusatorily. Why would I reply with an lol if you are actually making an attempt at communication? Why do you assume I use LLMs? I have given zero indication that either of those beliefs would be true. You are showing yourself to be someone that comes up with a view that you don’t change despite all signs pointing to it being wrong. Either you are a troll, or your preferred method of discussion is to speak loudly with fingers in your ears.
I’ve read plenty of socialist theory, but I have never gone through a socialist reading list. Plenty of derivative works cover the same stuff as that pamphlet.
And again, you seem to be purposefully ignoring my point, likely because you’ve already decided what you think I believe, and are unwilling to change that view despite me telling you you are wrong.
I don’t advocate for any candidates on either side. There is no candidate that I back. If I could start the revolution myself tomorrow, I would. But I can’t. No one can. The way I see it, the revolution won’t come due to who you do or do not vote for. If you disagree, explain why. Tell me, what are you accomplishing by not voting? That’s what I’ve been asking since the very beginning, and yet you, for some reason, choose to continue being uncouth and not actually engaging in this conversation.
You seem to think I’m upset. I’ve been enjoiying our chat. I’ve been on the internet long enough to not let some random troll get on my nerves. I’m just genuinely curious in what logic lead you to your decision. Now, I’ve already said what I accomplished by voting. But you should know that, as you have presumably been reading my responses. If you aren’t going to answer my question in your next response, I’m going to have to call it here. I’m patient, but my enjoyment of this conversation was from the pretense that you would eventually stop your seething and barking and actually open up on your thoughts around voting. From your current behaviour, I’m disappointed to say I can’t see that happening. I’ll just have to find someone else with your same stance that is actually up for a discussion.
I will never, for even a second, back down from liberals. Your ideology is shameful, and you know that because you’re trying to pass yourself off as a socialist.
You sponsor genocide and try to justify it in bad faith. You got called out and dismantled and all you have left is “muh civility”. And now you’ve run out of steam.
Are you a SocDem? Was I right?
No, you were not right. I’m a Socialist through and through. Nothing good can come from capitalism or a democratic republic. I just feel that I have a have a moral obligation to do what I can to save innocent lives, especially if all it takes is to swallow my pride and disdain for the game I am forced to play and check a box. As the very document you had me read suggests, I don’t believe the system can be changed from within. The system needs to be dismantled from the outside. I feel like a broken record because I’ve already stated all of this.
A socialist who advocates entryism into US electoral politics is confused and probably not a socialist. You haven’t even heard of Luxemburg’s essay, a staple of early reading lists. Have you consumed any socialist theory, not through an LLM? What in your head makes you a socialist in the same breath you, in your own words, vote for genocide of the Palestinian people?
Is it Gavin? Kamala? Who’s next? You’re a Westerner roleplaying as a leftist. You will never convince a leftist to sponsor a genocide like you have. It’s not happening now, or ever. The idea that you see benefit in voting for a genocidal administration means you’re so much farther right than you’ll probably ever realize. Your harm reduction theory will go down in history as complicity.
Time for a “lol”?
You respond so angrily and accusatorily. Why would I reply with an lol if you are actually making an attempt at communication? Why do you assume I use LLMs? I have given zero indication that either of those beliefs would be true. You are showing yourself to be someone that comes up with a view that you don’t change despite all signs pointing to it being wrong. Either you are a troll, or your preferred method of discussion is to speak loudly with fingers in your ears.
I’ve read plenty of socialist theory, but I have never gone through a socialist reading list. Plenty of derivative works cover the same stuff as that pamphlet.
And again, you seem to be purposefully ignoring my point, likely because you’ve already decided what you think I believe, and are unwilling to change that view despite me telling you you are wrong.
I don’t advocate for any candidates on either side. There is no candidate that I back. If I could start the revolution myself tomorrow, I would. But I can’t. No one can. The way I see it, the revolution won’t come due to who you do or do not vote for. If you disagree, explain why. Tell me, what are you accomplishing by not voting? That’s what I’ve been asking since the very beginning, and yet you, for some reason, choose to continue being uncouth and not actually engaging in this conversation.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with refusing to sponsor genocide, and everything wrong with the opposite.
You are a confused SocDem who readily admits to intentionally voting for genocide. To not antagonize you would be a failure of ethics.
I just want to understand your stance. What are you accomplishing by not voting?
What did you accomplish by voting? You sold your soul for a game you didn’t even win. It’s no wonder you’re so agitated by my ethics.
You seem to think I’m upset. I’ve been enjoiying our chat. I’ve been on the internet long enough to not let some random troll get on my nerves. I’m just genuinely curious in what logic lead you to your decision. Now, I’ve already said what I accomplished by voting. But you should know that, as you have presumably been reading my responses. If you aren’t going to answer my question in your next response, I’m going to have to call it here. I’m patient, but my enjoyment of this conversation was from the pretense that you would eventually stop your seething and barking and actually open up on your thoughts around voting. From your current behaviour, I’m disappointed to say I can’t see that happening. I’ll just have to find someone else with your same stance that is actually up for a discussion.
I will never, for even a second, back down from liberals. Your ideology is shameful, and you know that because you’re trying to pass yourself off as a socialist.
You sponsor genocide and try to justify it in bad faith. You got called out and dismantled and all you have left is “muh civility”. And now you’ve run out of steam.
Is it Gavin?