• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    11 days ago

    Although I agree … that is making assumptions of a situation based on our modern understanding and level of culture

    In the 24th Century … culture, ideas, therapy and psychology will be a lot different than what we understand today.

    In the Star Trek TNG future, it looks and sounds accepting and understanding of all sorts of things … but in the real world 24th Century that is yet to happen, it may or may not be as positive or negative as we would like to think. It will definitely be a lot different than to how we think now but to what extent - we don’t know.

    Think about it this way. How did people think about sexuality and sexual fantasies of others 100 years ago? 200 years ago? People and mobs would have probably gathered around and wanted to either severely punish the person or put them to death. We look down at that social mentality now as backward and uneducated … in 300 years our descendants may think of us today in the same way.

    What we think is normal today in our world won’t be normal in 200, 300, 500 years in the future … but that isn’t to say that things will be better or worse … they will just be way different that the way we see things today.

    Who knows, in 300 years they might not think of things like Barclay’s fantasies as anything serious and people might just look at it all in an open way and help him overcome those unrealistic fantasies … or they might create a society where they deem individuals like this as unfit for whole and want to ‘decommission’ this individual from the collective.

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      11 days ago

      Ignoring that he was sexually harassing Troi, for the moment, there is a massive conflict of interest that wouldn’t go just because it’s in the 24th century.

      Even if (and especially if,) Troi was interested in helping Barclay, then the best thing for him would have been to start seeing another therapist who he could engage without conflicting emotions.

      As for the sexual harassment… you’re right. They could be okay with that. And I don’t think that’s utopian. When your sexual fantasies start involving other people without their consent, that’s a problem.

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        11 days ago

        … like I said, we don’t know how they will treat things like that in the 24th century … maybe they’ll just politely ask him to leave the ship … by opening an air lock and let him go on his way.

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          10 days ago

          But again: as the object of his obsession, she cannot provide therapy in a healthy manner.

          Even if she was cool with it because all you say, it’s only going to feed into the problem.

          But I’m fairly sure that a society that values personal liberty, equality and freedom necessarily cannot accept something like this.

          And, let’s be clear here: she was quite angry- one might say pissed off- when the she saw the recreation of her, making it clear that her social norms, at least, were violated.