If a post gets downvoted, it could be a geinuenly awful post. But another post that gets downvoted, but is actually empiracially scientifically true, then it is treated equivolent as the other even though they are the same.
I don’t think this is the answer but one idea is to add points to people, or products, who are verified to be awesome. So that would be a scientist or compassionate politician gets more votes or a healthy product gets a subsidy.
like what and which system
Blatant example, once half the population starts to vote for fascists, there might be something wrong in the political system and/or society. If charlatans and lies are popular, maybe there’s an issue with education. But we have that with other things as well. If Lemmy’s votes don’t mean anything to me (they really don’t), maybe doing votes this way is far from the best option. If the majority of people use some products/services which come with severe downsides, maybe there’s a monopoly somewhere…
it seems like you’re saying it’s a problem with democracy (and possibly other systems). On my end, i have more a misanthropic bias where i think humans are fundamentally flawed. What do you think? is that where you are coming from or not?
Well, I didn’t specify the cause. Maybe it’s the humans themselves. Though if I look around, I have lots of nice neighbours with perfectly acceptable political opinions, friends and family, people who invite me to things or go above and beyond to accomodate me. I know many very intelligent people… And while politics is bad I’m still living a relatively free life. Sure humans are fundamentally flawed in ways? I mean we can be manipulated, we make mistakes. We prefer simple lies over complex truths… On the other hand we’re capable of love, do good things, collaborate…
I mean I refuse to reduce everything to misanthropy. I mean that’s the cheap way out… Society is getting worse… Well… boys will be boys… and then no one does anything about it. That’s not the solution to anything either.
fair enough, do you have optimistic ideas of a better system than democracy
Social democracy. And fostering a society where everyone is able to thrive. Universal basic income, crack down on neoliberalism, corruption, have a sane version of the free market and a sustainable economy, make education easy and available, cut down on crime and violence, have people unite instead of fight each other, we need some cohesion in a society…
I don’t think the voting process of a democracy is the issue here. I like to believe we have a broad majority of people who just want to be alright and live a relatively free life. It’s neoliberalism that causes 99% of our issues and we need to address that. Unfortunately democracy seems to be vulnerable to that, but I’m really unsure if that means we should scrap the entire idea. Maybe we should fix it instead because alternatives aren’t looking great. And currently lots of us aren’t trying very hard. Though it seems quality of life rises, the more “social” a democratic country is.
(And it doesn’t seem to me like neoliberalism was popular with the masses… That’s pushed by a minority of people, the rich and powerful. But I really don’t think it has anything to do with popularity. On the contrary… seems lots of people are not okay with the consequences.)