• Juice@midwest.social
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    22 hours ago

    Bourgeois conservatives are obsessed with 20th century communism. The billionaire class has had its own vanguard since Prescott Bush. Steve Bannon calls himself a Leninist, though I’m not real sure what he means. The Republican obsession with culture war is influenced by Gramsci and his theory of hegemonic power. And the republican strategy of politically controlling cities through rural areas, as in “the country surrounds the city,” is a component of Maoism.

    Not saying there is an affinity between far right conservatives and communists, I don’t believe that there is one. But 20th century communists’ application of dialectical materialism uncovered new political dynamics through their work with the masses, and unfortunately the far right learned many of these lessons, though only as a way to gain power for themselves noy liberation for all; while democrats clung death like to liberal idealism and refused to learn anything from the left whose job it is to oppose and keep from power.

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      21 hours ago

      Steve Bannon calls himself a Leninist, though I’m not real sure what he means.

      I mean fascist have “socialism” if you consider their party members alone to represent the state. That’s why fascist economics can be difficult to grasp for a lot of people, especially capitalists.

      Yes the Nazi seized the means of production… But, the way they did it was by seizing businesses not controlled by the party and then incentivizing loyalty by re-privatizing the businesses back to loyal party members.

      People like Bannon cannot see the difference between the people seizing the means of production to serve greater society, and the party seizing the means of production to serve the party itself. To them socialism is when government take business, and that’s it.

      And the republican strategy of politically controlling cities through rural areas, as in “the country surrounds the city,” is a component of Maoism.

      I don’t really think that’s entirely correct considering that the 3/5th compromise was basically set up to do the same thing in America, and the idea of a Senate itself was invented as a way to avoid the same situation early American leaders witnessed in the French revolution.

      I think maoism is a bit of a twist on the tradition, as class consciousness in China was fermented in the rural plurality unlike in Western nations which tend to take a more vanguard approach to socialism.

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        13 hours ago

        The actual material conditions that underpinned the revolutions in China, Russia, and other socialist experiments couldn’t be more different than our situation. China was a country that had a brutally and bloodily repressed peasant revolution before Mao rose to power and, in many ways, allowed that peasant revolution in China. Though I’m not an expert in Chinese history, def have some books here I gotta crack open.

        The Russian revolution too, had an extremely weak bourgeois class, a despotic royal family, and like 70 years of hardcore Marxists building the workers movement. Lenin was still exiled when the workers soviets seized power in February, with the Bolshevik revolution taking place in October. We haven’t had our Bloody Sunday, yet, that scares the peaceful worker movement so much that they have no choice but to face facts, organize for power, and overthrow the monarchy.

        No, the ruling classes can afford to be like detached from reality like this, they can call themselves Leninists and maybe even read and somewhat understand some of his work (or surround themselves with ppl that do.) But they’ll never understand these movements

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      19 hours ago

      They’re obsessed with selling the idea of 20th century communism without that label while practicing 19th century robber-baron-ism. They can be kings and gods and then sell everyone else the tools to chase the next ideal. Because ultimately all they have is brand loyalty, fear, and a lack of any other options keeping farmers with them.

      Back in 2016 Trey Crowder and 2 other comedian friends wrote a book called the Liberal Redneck Manifesto. As someone that grew up redneck, it was probably the best assessment of the situation in 2016 I’ve seen so far, and the media missed it 100%. The ultimate lesson is that until it affects the under-educated and they think they chose the alternative, they will continue to act against their own best interests because “That’s how it’s done.” Same exact thing applies to the developing world.

      Then J.D. Vance and his stupid book came in and swept the scene with his mediocre drivel that made coastal liberal elites feel like now they understood how Trump won. Still pisses me off how joyously out of touch they were as they fueled the fire that got us here.

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        14 hours ago

        I’ll have to check out that Crowder book. Yeah they want to restore the gilded age.

        But there will be no new deal. This time we don’t stop until every last one of them has been thrown down put of power, and faced the judgement of the people for their excessive crimes

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      17 hours ago

      Nah I wouldn’t call it communism. They want slavery. The “good ones” own the land. And the libs are the slaves. That is their ideal world.

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        14 hours ago

        Oh absolutely, 1000%. Its not communism, but they’ll use whatever affectation/artifice to get to slavery.