• peopleproblems@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Arguably? Putin is the problem.

    Trump is nothing without people with actual power. He doesn’t have the brain capacity to actually do anything.

    Netenyahu is a small weak man of a small weak nation with too much concentrated wealth and too much fingers in the western world.

    If you take Putin out, the rest of the world stands a chance at ridding itself of the evil that Zionism has infected it with, regardless if Netenyahu is around or not.

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      11 hours ago

      Israel and the US might as well be the same nation at this point.

      They’re the two strongest countries by far when it comes to cybersecurity and cyberterrorism.

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        8 hours ago

        Correct. And if you remove the military, intelligence, and funding support given to Israel from the US, and leave Israel to fend for itself, it will face swift regime change too.

        But that can only happen if the Kremlin’s interference with democratic systems ends, and then the remainder of the world has the chance to remove authoritarians from their seats of power and influence.

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      11 hours ago

      If by ‘small weak Israel’ you mean the most advanced military supported by the world’s most powerful country’s naval, aerial and intel militaries you should recalibrate your ‘weaknessmeter’.

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        9 hours ago

        Withdraw US support, and Israel is nothing.

        To withdraw US support we need to end the current regime, and move forward to replacing the DNC with actual caring people.

        All of this will be substatially easier if Putin is out of power.

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          8 hours ago

          Gotta agree with the first two points you made, although you didn’t comment on the funding part. As much as a russian puppet Trump may look like, it’s american corporation and Israeli lobby who fund and drive the US foreign policy💰🇺🇲

          Russians will be russians. You take Putin out and a worse one will follow to appease their elite. It’s just the West is barely waking up from the unipolar world dream.

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            7 hours ago

            Oh, I probably responded to that one someone else’s comment and forgot to bring it along with me.

            My mother has tried to convince me of that. The “and then it got worse” is part of the core of their culture. I don’t want to believe that’s true, mostly because things DID get better after Stalin died.

            I get that 500 years of state-subsidized alcoholism can greatly impact a nation, but surely they are capable of trying for something better.

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      13 hours ago

      Trump is nothing without people with actual power, but the movement he led to power is not. If the conditions are right for its emergence fascism, like life, finds a way. Thinking Trump is the root cause of anything strikes me as very unwarranted optimism.

      If you take Putin out, the rest of the world stands a chance at ridding itself of the evil that Zionism has infected it with, regardless if Netenyahu is around or not.

      How so? There’s very little interdependence between Israel and Russia (not that they’re not chummy with each other, but that this chumminess isn’t decisive a la the US or Europe).

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        9 hours ago

        Might have misunderstood me? He’s not the root cause of anything. It’s why the “3 people” in the poster aren’t on equal levels. He’s an opportunistic con man that somehow believes cleverness is equivalent to intelligence.

        Israel is wholly dependent on its existence by the US. The US has supported Israel because of the exact same influence that Russia manipulated, except Israel has been doing it with far more money for much longer than Putin himself.

        If you kick the peg that is Putin, there will be a cascading collapse of authoritarians. The only ruler that gets to avoid that from what I can tell is Xi Jinping.

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          8 hours ago

          If you kick the peg that is Putin, there will be a cascading collapse of authoritarians.

          How so? You said it yourself; Israel has been doing this shit way before Russia could even hope of trying.