“slight”. How is it “slight”? You go from a religion of bearing suffering, being saved by grace, monogamy to one of polygamy, conquest and slaughter, works based salvation and many rituals. The Muslims don’t even worship Christ. Mohammed basically copied some stories, Christian practices, then made the rest up.
True. But, practices and stories are what a religion is made out of. The dietary laws are in the bible even if they’re interpreted as no longer applying, most of the other things that are forbidden to Christians are still forbidden, and they’re really big on charity and not worshiping other gods. The fasting is new, I guess, as is the specific style of prayer.
I kind of have to go through the rest piece-by-piece.
bearing suffering
Subjective, so I’ll just leave it.
being saved by grace
How that’s interpreted varies massively by denomination and through history. The protestant version I was taught isn’t even the original one historically - everyone had to keep up with their confessions before the reformation.
monogamy to one of polygamy
I suppose there was a pretty decent divergence there, although I’m surprised to hear it as a grievance.
conquest and slaughter
… You’re British. It’s a Christian nation that has a certain history.
and many rituals
Almost everything that happens in a church qualifies as well. Some of the more American-style churches are flexible about it, and drink their grape juice out of plastic cups n fold-up chairs, but AFAIK the King’s church still keeps the old flair.
The Muslims don’t even worship Christ.
He’s #2 after Mohammad. It’s true he’s not worshiped though. You need a trinity to make that not idolatry, which is one of the bones Muslims have to pick with Christians.
Yes, I don’t blame Christianity for that either. I’ve actually noticed no moral variation between people based on what religion they’re brought up in.
I’ve only read fragments of the Quran, but I’d be surprised if there was more brutality than in the torah/old testament.
It also teaches salvation isn’t by works.
A billion catholics would disagree. Even Arminians and Calvinists (the two main protestant schools on this, for anyone unfamiliar) can require more than just passive acceptance of doctrine for it to count, each in their own ways. If you’re being hyper-literal here, both works and faith figure in to salvation by grace, which is the main alternative.
The passages used to justify the role of faith are the ones like John 14:6. It definitely implies Jesus has to be involved in salvation, but anything beyond that is a matter of interpretation, and massively contentious to the point wars have been fought.
Islam is literally a slight rewriting of Christianity.
“slight”. How is it “slight”? You go from a religion of bearing suffering, being saved by grace, monogamy to one of polygamy, conquest and slaughter, works based salvation and many rituals. The Muslims don’t even worship Christ. Mohammed basically copied some stories, Christian practices, then made the rest up.
True. But, practices and stories are what a religion is made out of. The dietary laws are in the bible even if they’re interpreted as no longer applying, most of the other things that are forbidden to Christians are still forbidden, and they’re really big on charity and not worshiping other gods. The fasting is new, I guess, as is the specific style of prayer.
I kind of have to go through the rest piece-by-piece.
Subjective, so I’ll just leave it.
How that’s interpreted varies massively by denomination and through history. The protestant version I was taught isn’t even the original one historically - everyone had to keep up with their confessions before the reformation.
I suppose there was a pretty decent divergence there, although I’m surprised to hear it as a grievance.
… You’re British. It’s a Christian nation that has a certain history.
Almost everything that happens in a church qualifies as well. Some of the more American-style churches are flexible about it, and drink their grape juice out of plastic cups n fold-up chairs, but AFAIK the King’s church still keeps the old flair.
He’s #2 after Mohammad. It’s true he’s not worshiped though. You need a trinity to make that not idolatry, which is one of the bones Muslims have to pick with Christians.
The Bible doesn’t mandate any rituals beyond Holy Communion and Baptism. Anything else is optional. It also teaches salvation isn’t by works.
Using what Christian’s did to define Christianity isn’t genuine either. The Qur’an speaks of subjugation.
Yes, I don’t blame Christianity for that either. I’ve actually noticed no moral variation between people based on what religion they’re brought up in.
I’ve only read fragments of the Quran, but I’d be surprised if there was more brutality than in the torah/old testament.
A billion catholics would disagree. Even Arminians and Calvinists (the two main protestant schools on this, for anyone unfamiliar) can require more than just passive acceptance of doctrine for it to count, each in their own ways. If you’re being hyper-literal here, both works and faith figure in to salvation by grace, which is the main alternative.
The passages used to justify the role of faith are the ones like John 14:6. It definitely implies Jesus has to be involved in salvation, but anything beyond that is a matter of interpretation, and massively contentious to the point wars have been fought.