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I’m confused, doesn’t worsening material conditions count as political utility in his eyes?
Edit:I normally wouldn’t have an issue, since it’s actually pretty sane, but I literally thought to myself today “it would be funny if BE said Kirk’s death was a bad thing because adventurism will make things worse.” I was joking. I’m starting to hypothosize that economists [both accelerationist and reformists] are actually simps for the status quo
Is this him trying to state the obvious so people forget the “bad takes” (transphobia) he’s been spouting recently?
Or is he aware that people are pissed off at him and he says something obvious that contradicts what he normally says to cause conflict and engagement?
If he hadn’t post this, I wouldn’t have known that things would get worse. Thank god for BE.
Seriously tho, it’s getting hard to tell whether he’s just trolling nowadays or if he genuinely believes what he says on social media anymore. Who hasn’t anticipated that this incident will be used to incite even more violent retaliation against the left. He says this as if he were the first with this take. Acceleration of the cruel inevitable or not, the right would have always done what they wanted but they’ll surely grasp at whatever reasons to support their cause. Hate it how his superfans get so worked up when you give him some criticisms and god is he so quick to call people idiots or assume others are American for questioning him instead of engaging in good faith discussion. I’m a huge fan of his work but he can be so exhausting sometimes.
They were gonna do it anyway. I don’t think it even accelerates things.
The killing of the this horse gummed warmonger was most likely in house hit by god knows who. However i don’t think it is in any way useful for the left or right
I’m not gonna pretend that Chuck dying won’t accelerate our decline into martial law, but I’m not gonna pretend to be sad about it. He’s not Jesus and he’s not MLK.
I also get suspicious of people who make noise about fighting the power and being super radical while parroting mainstream fash talking points and pearl-clutching liberal hysteria. Enough people are telling us to be sad/angry over whiteboy podcaster #92 getting merced that we don’t need to bother saying it with them. Just let us have this win.
I don’t think we’re accelerationists but my group chat is tired of the status quo. Whatever, dude, none of us expect to retire in peace.
I feel like you can get more out of your life than just shooting one conservative politician.
No one is advocating shooting politicians. We just recognize that as the material conditions worsen, political violence will increase and that the response of fascists is going to be oppression and state violence especially against minorities and the left.
We’re not cheering it on but we’ve been aware of the possibility for years. It is whatever.
First of all, Charlie deserved it.
However gotta admit, my first thoughts were along these lines. It took me to see the reactions of the right wing pundits in my country to go full party mode just to spite those fuckers.
Thought this would be a good time to share my Bad Empanada soyjak.
This guy is such a joke. only Vaush has cratered quicker in my personal discovery to block journey and BadEmpenada only lost by, like, a week. Crazy.
oh let us have some fun
If the Reichstag hadn’t burned, the Holocaust wouldn’t have happened, historians agree
We don’t even know who was the person who shot Kirk or put fire in the Reichstag. It could even be one of the right wingers, thinking the guy wasn’t fascist enough.
And while Nazis and Magas may use anything to justify their goals, it’s not like they would cease doing any kind of violence they are already doing even if no bad event happened to them.
the nazis wouldn’t have dared to cross these boundaries 😔
If only all those minorities hadn’t made the nazis so angry…
he’s been getting more and more terminally online
Acting like people can’t comprehend that things can be worse is pretty funny, ngl.
Like imagine if I posted on lemmygrad and was like, “I know it’s a bit hard for you people to understand, but the working class is a thing.”
This isn’t even a take or analysis lol, it’s just an internet personality over-inflating their own sense of awareness compared to others. “I better get online and say this, nobody will think of it otherwise.”
wdym, stepping on a feather, and stepping on a nail are both the same thing - since you both times step on something - thats why it causes the same pain! And thats communism
Man BE is on a streak of bad takes lately its kinda sad.
I dont understand this position. Does anyone really think the far right just, wasnt going to do anything before? Like they were waiting for something like this to happen? As if Trump wasnt already deploying the national guard in major cities? Like come on, the ruling class does not act out of petty revenge, and by this logic there is no actual action communists can take because anything can serve to provoke the far right.
And werent people saying this same thing about Trumps failed assassination last year? And nothing happened
Too many Americans are scared of things changing and want to just put the blame on whatever. They want to cling to the idea that the path we are on could somehow be avoided if X Y or Z didnt happen. If this event somehow changes what you think the future holds then you havent been paying attention.
It’s funny because the dudes a hardcore accelerationist when he talks about the west burning but then when things accelerate and he isn’t the one making all the comments he gets stuck up his own ass about it. At this point his ideology isn’t communism, it’s his own ego. He HAS to be contrarian to let us all know how dumb we are and how smart he is.
Its sad but true. Hes gotta be a contrarian. He went from making high effort content of genuine academic quality in terms of research and analysis to just being against what everyone else is. I still think he has some good things to say every now and then but he took the ragebait too far and thats 90% of his politics now
At this point his ideology isn’t communism, it’s his own ego.
He more or less confirmed that explicitly.
It’s not that they weren’t going to do anything before. It’s that this lets them say “You see? I told you the left is out of control! They attacked us for no reason”. It solidifies the position. It gives them stronger grounds to do what they planned to regardless.
This is a completely unmaterialist take. This has absolutely 0 material effect on the situation. Stronger grounds to do what they wanted in the eyes of whom? Libs who werent gonna do shit either way? Conservative who were gonna eat up whatever they say regardless? Genuinely what is materially affected? This is a position based on the vibes of what sounds like should be true, not a realistic material analysis of the situation
They were always going to do that anyway, in the absence of a real event they would have made some shit up
Isn’t this more credible than some qanon shit? After all, we are talking about it too
If they really needed it, they wouldve staged a shooting of this caliber. Theyve done it before and theyll do it again
Doesn’t matter at all whether it’s credible, they will do exactly what they were always planning to do
You’ll have to run that back for me. Are you saying the political aparatus is so powerful it can do whatever it wants with equal effectiveness of method? Or the public across the board being so stupid it doesn’t make a difference whether something is real or not? Or something else?
Yes
Are you saying the political aparatus is so powerful it can do whatever it wants with equal effectiveness of method?
I assume this. In the end the yugoslav civil war didnt start because a random dude lied about putting a bottle up his bum.
Shits gonna get worse anyway, why wait till it’s worse to start
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I used to agree with almost everything the empanada man had to say, but he’s been slipping lately. “Look long enough into the YouTube drama factory and it looks also into you”, I guess
I fully agree. I remember back when BE used to say he didn’t even want to voice his own videos because it would turn him into too much of a publicly involved figure. Today’s BE is unrecognisable by comparison where he wants every last dumb though to be a spectacle.
Living proof that Twitter is a cognitohazard
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I not sure if we changed or if Empanada changed. I noticed a decline when the Gaza genocide started which turned into a free fall when he decided to get into drama slop.
I wouldn’t say I “upheld” him, I think I agreed with him on a lot of things but disagreed with some of his takes. He was an extremely staunch ten toes down supporter of Palestine at a time when most of leftube wasn’t even thinking about it for example, which I thought was really commendable. But lately he’s been getting worse and worse.
He is heedlessly contrarian and stumbled upon the correct belief about palestinians and how jewish and/or isntreali voices are centred over them, even in left discourse. Of course this doesnt mean his framework is beneficial to replicate.
stumbled upon the correct belief about palestinians
I think his positions on Palestine were arrived at perfectly logically and through study tbh. He was releasing videos on the topic years and years ago. Agree to disagree I suppose.
he’d good at attacking the US/western hegemony but he’s also really good at shitting in his own mouth
