• Deadsoldier69@lemmy.world
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    RIP Charlie Kirk.

    You were a good Christian man with moral principles with a wife and 2 kids. You were killed by a lunatic while you were exercising your freedom of speech, you were persecuted by your opponents. Some may say that’s a form of fascism, the same party that accused you of being.

    The violent rhetoric of the left influenced some weak minded soul to take you from your children, and also taken your quotes out of context.

    Charlie Kirk never robbed a pregnant woman at gun point, or robbed a bank, or killed a woman on a train, but instead encouraged open conversation between all parties so they could understand each other in a meaningful way.

    May you rest in peace, and may your naysayers see the evil in their ways and repent. They may mock you because they’re unable to refute your debates, but they will reap what they sow.

    RIP Charlie Kirk

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    Great foreshadowing too.

    Earlier this year, Utah passed House Bill 128 allowing people to conceal carry firearms on university campuses. One of the campuses where conceal carry was now permitted is, of course, Utah Valley University, where Charlie Kirk was visiting today. He was sitting under a tent with the slogan “Prove Me Wrong”.

    Immediately before the shooting, he was taking questions from the audience:

    “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”

    The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

    “Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.

    Then a single shot rang out.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/conservative-activist-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-valley-university-event-spokesperson-says

    It’s unfortunate that he’s ineligible for the Darwin Award because he leaves behind 2 very young children and a culture warrior wife, because otherwise he’d be a great nominee for the 2025 Darwin Awards. Normally to get a Darwin Award someone has to directly kill themselves. But, I think in this case we could have make an exception for someone who was a cheerleader for gun rights and was sitting directly under a banner saying “Prove Me Wrong” when he was killed with a gun.

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    Why didn’t he just edit out his death, like he did with all the debates he lost? Is he stupid?

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    “Kirked” is a verb. Past tense obviously. /S

    The civil war has been happening but mostly it’s just feds playing with themselves using pawns trying to entice real human beings to join in.

    Look at all the history of the CIA and fed assassinations… And look at that kill shot.

    Look at the joke assignations attempts they used on trump… Because he wasn’t supposed to really die yet.

    There’s a reason Kirk died and Trump didn’t.

    They are both pawns, but Kirk was a lower pawn.

    Legal Modern Mafia that sacrifices their own by extorting people to kill for them. The same as the game in the streets. The sad part is most people don’t realize they are used.

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    Advocating for the removal of others rights is violence. This seems like self defense.

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    I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.

    He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.

    That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.

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      There was a way around this that would have resulted in no deaths. Trump should been prosecuted for the January 6th insurrection. Then we should have put a bunch of fascists in jail for a long time. Then we should have de-platformed grifters.

      But none of that happens so. We get what we get.

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      If you’re part of a movement that’s taking vaccines away from babies, well, you’re evil and people are going to respond to that.

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      Seriously, he’s words and actions have probably resulted in the deaths of others, why shouldn’t he have gotten this outcome?

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      His family shouldn’t expect empathy, and he wouldn’t want his death to distract from full Epstein file disclosure.

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        I expect the NRA will stage a gunshow at a nearby site someplace in the next few days, right? Its what they do for school shootings and this was at a school. So Kirk’s fam can stock up on cheap ammo.

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      Pretty sure Wikipedia has a single button that changes all present tense to past sense. Someone who’s more familiar with it correct me if I’m wrong though.

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    I am so glad that i live in the timeline where Charlie Kirk was the sole victim of a school shooting. I’m glad he could die defending the Second Amendment

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    This is a TRAGEDY! WHY couldn’t they MURDER A BUNCH OF KINDERGARTNERS Instead? This SUCKS! It’s TIME for Trump to send the Military into the Shithole Blue state of Utah!

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        That happens all the time it’s not news.

        Someone getting the justice they deserve? That’s news!

        But I didn’t know about the school shooting. I am so fucking sick of this shit. It’s not ok for the conservatives to have conversations with their kids about gay people existing but it’s perfectly fine for me to have a conversation with my kids telling them they might die when they go to school right?

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      I like them anyway, but your comments never fail at being slightly annoying. I know it’s parody of trump and his type of posts, but it’s just a little too on the nose and the intermittent all caps words gets on my nerves. 10/10 Boomerposting

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    I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.

    The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence… it’s a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they’ll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn’t go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I’m sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they’re all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.

    Source: History, memory…

    P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend 👀

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      I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.

      It’s what he wanted. Quick, too.

      It is fucked for those kids though. Not their fault.

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      Yeah his kids and family didn’t deserve that.

      He may have, but they didn’t. That’s why this kind of thing is usually frowned upon I suppose.

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      Speaking as someone with a shitty sociopath ‘parent’:

      They’ve seen enough its not too much escalation. And now they never have to deal with his bullshit again. The emotions will be complicated, but they won’t all be bad.

      You’re looking for someone to cry for. Cry for tye victims of this toxic shit. The kids he turned into nazis. The people who died on the street. The querrs who suffered abd possibly died in silence. All because this didnt happen sooner.

      Cry with joy for those that might live now. If you have that much surplus of tears.