You make a great point about how people feel that way, regardless of the reality. Many conservatives feel like it was illegal not to get the COVID vaccine, despite nowhere in the US having a legal requirement. It was simply businesses requiring it for their employees and/or customers
To them the legal threat was very real, regardless of reality. Progressives need to understand that and work to alleviate the concerns of conservatives. We can shout all we want about how we shouldn’t have to cater to them, or how basic empathy should be enough for conservatives, but that isn’t the reality. If you genuinely feel immigrants are why you can’t get a job, all empathy goes out the window. Telling them they’re a bad person for doing something they think will help them feed their family will never work
Yeah. And ironically, part of the issue is a lack of empathy on the left. Instead of asking why conservatives believe these things and trying to understand how to convince them otherwise, the American left just wants to call them fascists and deplatform them. “It’s not my job to educate you” is smug and contemptuous and one of the nicer ways the left respond to conservatives.
The reason Charlie Kirk is so beloved on the right is because when the feminist movement wrote young men off - telling them “everything you know about being a man is misogynist, stop doing it, but it’s not our job to teach you how to be a better man” and leaving millions of young men at a loss about how to be men, Kirk came along and told them it was okay to be a traditional man and here’s how to do it.
Kirk was an idol to millions of teenage boys who are now seeing the online left cheering for his death. And if you think Trump is bad, just wait until those kids are old enough to vote.
the American left just wants to call them fascists and deplatform them
They were and are fascists. That’s no longer a question or a hypothetical outcome. It is our current reality. We have ICE acting as a paramilitary going through the streets rounding up anyone that looks Hispanic, including many citizens and legal residents. We’ve built special camps to house large numbers of detainees in a small area
We have the National Guard deployed across the country - armed military members walking our streets. We’ve renamed the Department of Defense to the Department of War and threatened war with many other countries - Canada, Greenland/Denmark, Panama, Iran, and more
Anyone opposing Trump is being retaliated against. He threatened to revoke all of Musk’s contracts for being critical of The Big Beautiful Bill. John Bolton, Trump’s former national security advisor had his home raided by the FBI in clear retribution to his publicly critical statements about Trump. Kamala Harris had her Secret Service detail revoked at a time when political violence is at an all time high. What possible reason could Trump have for revoking her security detail other than in the hopes she is assassinated?
It’s quintessential fascism. What more needs to happen before people admit it?
the feminist movement wrote young men off - telling them “everything you know about being a man is misogynist, stop doing it, but it’s not our job to teach you how to be a better man”
That was not the platform of the feminist movement. It was the views of a small fringe group. One of the problems with far-right commentators is they like to look at a tiny extreme group that very few people agree with and claim they represent the whole left. Somehow it worked and now people, like you, are convinced of crazy things
Kirk was an idol to millions of teenage boys who are now seeing the online left cheering for his death
Kirk himself was cheering when a guy tried to assassinate Paul Pelosi. He even “joked” about getting someone to pay the bail of Pelosi’s attacker
It’s been tit-for-tat for a while. It’s not getting better
And ironically, part of the issue is a lack of empathy on the left. Instead of asking why conservatives believe these things and trying to understand how to convince them otherwise, the American left just wants to call them fascists and deplatform them. “It’s not my job to educate you” is smug and contemptuous and one of the nicer ways the left respond to conservatives.
No wonder you delete all of your comments. That’s a pretty terrible take.
You make a great point about how people feel that way, regardless of the reality. Many conservatives feel like it was illegal not to get the COVID vaccine, despite nowhere in the US having a legal requirement. It was simply businesses requiring it for their employees and/or customers
To them the legal threat was very real, regardless of reality. Progressives need to understand that and work to alleviate the concerns of conservatives. We can shout all we want about how we shouldn’t have to cater to them, or how basic empathy should be enough for conservatives, but that isn’t the reality. If you genuinely feel immigrants are why you can’t get a job, all empathy goes out the window. Telling them they’re a bad person for doing something they think will help them feed their family will never work
Yeah. And ironically, part of the issue is a lack of empathy on the left. Instead of asking why conservatives believe these things and trying to understand how to convince them otherwise, the American left just wants to call them fascists and deplatform them. “It’s not my job to educate you” is smug and contemptuous and one of the nicer ways the left respond to conservatives.
The reason Charlie Kirk is so beloved on the right is because when the feminist movement wrote young men off - telling them “everything you know about being a man is misogynist, stop doing it, but it’s not our job to teach you how to be a better man” and leaving millions of young men at a loss about how to be men, Kirk came along and told them it was okay to be a traditional man and here’s how to do it.
Kirk was an idol to millions of teenage boys who are now seeing the online left cheering for his death. And if you think Trump is bad, just wait until those kids are old enough to vote.
They were and are fascists. That’s no longer a question or a hypothetical outcome. It is our current reality. We have ICE acting as a paramilitary going through the streets rounding up anyone that looks Hispanic, including many citizens and legal residents. We’ve built special camps to house large numbers of detainees in a small area
We have the National Guard deployed across the country - armed military members walking our streets. We’ve renamed the Department of Defense to the Department of War and threatened war with many other countries - Canada, Greenland/Denmark, Panama, Iran, and more
Anyone opposing Trump is being retaliated against. He threatened to revoke all of Musk’s contracts for being critical of The Big Beautiful Bill. John Bolton, Trump’s former national security advisor had his home raided by the FBI in clear retribution to his publicly critical statements about Trump. Kamala Harris had her Secret Service detail revoked at a time when political violence is at an all time high. What possible reason could Trump have for revoking her security detail other than in the hopes she is assassinated?
It’s quintessential fascism. What more needs to happen before people admit it?
That was not the platform of the feminist movement. It was the views of a small fringe group. One of the problems with far-right commentators is they like to look at a tiny extreme group that very few people agree with and claim they represent the whole left. Somehow it worked and now people, like you, are convinced of crazy things
Kirk himself was cheering when a guy tried to assassinate Paul Pelosi. He even “joked” about getting someone to pay the bail of Pelosi’s attacker
It’s been tit-for-tat for a while. It’s not getting better
No wonder you delete all of your comments. That’s a pretty terrible take.