• sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub
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    Yeah. And ironically, part of the issue is a lack of empathy on the left. Instead of asking why conservatives believe these things and trying to understand how to convince them otherwise, the American left just wants to call them fascists and deplatform them. “It’s not my job to educate you” is smug and contemptuous and one of the nicer ways the left respond to conservatives.

    The reason Charlie Kirk is so beloved on the right is because when the feminist movement wrote young men off - telling them “everything you know about being a man is misogynist, stop doing it, but it’s not our job to teach you how to be a better man” and leaving millions of young men at a loss about how to be men, Kirk came along and told them it was okay to be a traditional man and here’s how to do it.

    Kirk was an idol to millions of teenage boys who are now seeing the online left cheering for his death. And if you think Trump is bad, just wait until those kids are old enough to vote.

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      the American left just wants to call them fascists and deplatform them

      They were and are fascists. That’s no longer a question or a hypothetical outcome. It is our current reality. We have ICE acting as a paramilitary going through the streets rounding up anyone that looks Hispanic, including many citizens and legal residents. We’ve built special camps to house large numbers of detainees in a small area

      We have the National Guard deployed across the country - armed military members walking our streets. We’ve renamed the Department of Defense to the Department of War and threatened war with many other countries - Canada, Greenland/Denmark, Panama, Iran, and more

      Anyone opposing Trump is being retaliated against. He threatened to revoke all of Musk’s contracts for being critical of The Big Beautiful Bill. John Bolton, Trump’s former national security advisor had his home raided by the FBI in clear retribution to his publicly critical statements about Trump. Kamala Harris had her Secret Service detail revoked at a time when political violence is at an all time high. What possible reason could Trump have for revoking her security detail other than in the hopes she is assassinated?

      It’s quintessential fascism. What more needs to happen before people admit it?

      the feminist movement wrote young men off - telling them “everything you know about being a man is misogynist, stop doing it, but it’s not our job to teach you how to be a better man”

      That was not the platform of the feminist movement. It was the views of a small fringe group. One of the problems with far-right commentators is they like to look at a tiny extreme group that very few people agree with and claim they represent the whole left. Somehow it worked and now people, like you, are convinced of crazy things

      Kirk was an idol to millions of teenage boys who are now seeing the online left cheering for his death

      Kirk himself was cheering when a guy tried to assassinate Paul Pelosi. He even “joked” about getting someone to pay the bail of Pelosi’s attacker

      It’s been tit-for-tat for a while. It’s not getting better

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      And ironically, part of the issue is a lack of empathy on the left. Instead of asking why conservatives believe these things and trying to understand how to convince them otherwise, the American left just wants to call them fascists and deplatform them. “It’s not my job to educate you” is smug and contemptuous and one of the nicer ways the left respond to conservatives.

      No wonder you delete all of your comments. That’s a pretty terrible take.