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        then you should start saying things that are actually true? or not believing corporate propaganda at face value?

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          Have I said anything that’s untrue? Or am I just obliged to agree with you? You dismissed Clent’s comment because “Apple’s claims are irrelevant”, so even if they were doing exactly what they say, you wouldn’t accept it. There’s literally no point to this conversation beyond drawing out a disagreement where neither person can categorically be proven correct.

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            you claimed there is a lesser of two evils between stock apple and google phones, and implied throughout the conversation that apple is the better one. both claims are untrue.

            the other commenter you allude to claimed iphones are not closed source, which is really untrue.

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              It’s not untrue, it’s that you believe it’s untrue.

              Unless of course you’re able to prove that Apple and Google are currently the same with respect to the data they harvest.

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                both systems are opaque. we have no reliable way of knowing beyond the encrypted data we see coming out of them, and both do it very similarly. hence both are the same, as far as an objective observer can tell.

                which is why your claim that its better is untrue. it’s about your beliefs, because you can’t really point to anything significant that apple does better for privacy, else you would have mentioned it.

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                  It doesn’t exist because I haven’t mentioned it? 😂

                  I’m not here to do your research for you.

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                    so, you don’t actually have any facts to defend your untruthful claims?

                    i mean of course you don’t. as i mentioned both systems are opaque.