you claimed there is a lesser of two evils between stock apple and google phones, and implied throughout the conversation that apple is the better one. both claims are untrue.
the other commenter you allude to claimed iphones are not closed source, which is really untrue.
both systems are opaque. we have no reliable way of knowing beyond the encrypted data we see coming out of them, and both do it very similarly. hence both are the same, as far as an objective observer can tell.
which is why your claim that its better is untrue. it’s about your beliefs, because you can’t really point to anything significant that apple does better for privacy, else you would have mentioned it.
Yes you did, you said both systems are opaque so I can’t have “facts” for you.
So equally, you don’t have any to back up your claims either. In fact you went so far as to dismiss a comment by another user where you stated that you’re ignoring Apple’s claims because they can’t prove it because their code is closed. So what’s the point?
If the facts someone presents to you can be dismissed by you because you refuse to believe it, then me echoing them won’t make any difference will it?
And yet you can happily claim the opposite and say what I’m saying is untrue, with equally as few facts.
You want me to prove my claim that Apple harvests less data, but you haven’t got any proof of your claim that they collect the same as Google. All while saying that because the system is opaque that it can’t be proved.
you claimed there is a lesser of two evils between stock apple and google phones, and implied throughout the conversation that apple is the better one. both claims are untrue.
the other commenter you allude to claimed iphones are not closed source, which is really untrue.
It’s not untrue, it’s that you believe it’s untrue.
Unless of course you’re able to prove that Apple and Google are currently the same with respect to the data they harvest.
both systems are opaque. we have no reliable way of knowing beyond the encrypted data we see coming out of them, and both do it very similarly. hence both are the same, as far as an objective observer can tell.
which is why your claim that its better is untrue. it’s about your beliefs, because you can’t really point to anything significant that apple does better for privacy, else you would have mentioned it.
It doesn’t exist because I haven’t mentioned it? 😂
I’m not here to do your research for you.
so, you don’t actually have any facts to defend your untruthful claims?
i mean of course you don’t. as i mentioned both systems are opaque.
😂 by the very nature of your own point regarding their opacity, you can’t defend your claim that what I’ve said is untrue.
You can’t say “we don’t know, so you’re wrong”.
Well, maybe you can, but as I say, you have to be obtuse to do it.
no, i did not in fact say this, talk about being obtuse.
you don’t actually know of any fact at all to support your claims do you?
heading out, have a nice day. 😘
Yes you did, you said both systems are opaque so I can’t have “facts” for you.
So equally, you don’t have any to back up your claims either. In fact you went so far as to dismiss a comment by another user where you stated that you’re ignoring Apple’s claims because they can’t prove it because their code is closed. So what’s the point?
If the facts someone presents to you can be dismissed by you because you refuse to believe it, then me echoing them won’t make any difference will it?
And yet you can happily claim the opposite and say what I’m saying is untrue, with equally as few facts.
You want me to prove my claim that Apple harvests less data, but you haven’t got any proof of your claim that they collect the same as Google. All while saying that because the system is opaque that it can’t be proved.
This entire conversation is absurd.