No, the rate is around 30% of men have engaged in sexually aggressive behavior. It is endemic in our society hence why the majority of women have been sexually assaulted in their lifetime.
“White and Smith (in press) surveyed three cohorts of men across 4 years of college. By the end of the study, 14% had reported committing attempted or completed rape and 34% had reported at least one act of sexual assault perpetration.”
"Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completed rape; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion. "
Sorry, just a mistake i used to make a lot; citing sources has never convinced anyone. Closest ive ever seen work is exaggerating a number slightly so they correct you with the real-but-still-very-bad number,
They still don’t give a shit, but they do acknowledge it if you can get them to do that.
You would rather win the argument with one person than serve more people the source to read for themselves? If you quote a paper it should be sourced. If you don’t source it then it is suspicious and you are just creating conflict. Methods are important.
You don’t realize how insane that is to say, because you’re either not conscious or have no connection to material reality.
would rather win the argumet than
But then they cite it, which also saves me formatting a link.
read it for themselves
The point is that nobody gives a shit and facts to not persuade. They sre not ammunition. Materialists are unicorns. You aren’t one because
creating conflict
Says the rape apologist in the thread full of men saying rapists aren’t real and they would totally know if they saw one in spite of all the other people, including OP, pointing out how thats bullshit, including this one beautiful quixotic fool citing a source and bring told ‘nuh uh’ while they’re downvoted to oblivion even when we cite academic studies to back our experiences.
Says the the person who actually advocated not citing sources. People do care, it’s just you like to be right and because reality does not agree with your perceived bias, you can’t find any scientific source to back it up, and therefore cannot source one. Your pettiness is your problem, not ours.
A range of actions that involve the use of force, coercion, or manipulation to engage in sexual activity without the victim’s consent. In other words, rape.
“White and Smith (in press) surveyed three cohorts of men across 4 years of college. By the end of the study, 14% had reported committing attempted or completed rape and 34% had reported at least one act of sexual assault perpetration.”
"Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completed rape; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion. "
I know I can but if you’ve already got it up that would be easier and I feel it’s common courtesy to cite your sources. But alright, I will look for it on my own.
I like reading dry academic shit, it’s a certain disorder I’ve developed over the years.
As a rule you should just provide the sources you’re quoting from.
Otherwise, it just looks like it’s made up or the source is shitty so you don’t want to share the source because it would undermine what you’re quoting.
Not providing a proper link or proper reference (where link unavailable) is rather dodgy (& bad form) on the web, which was invented to solve this exact problem.
Sending people to go hunting for sources leaves much to chance, and they may fail to locate them.
It’s simply not a logical way to support a claim or convince skeptics a claim is true if you care about your claim.
No one is obligated to care about your argument more than you, especially if you won’t care enough to support it properly.
I provided it for several other people that repeated exactly what you said. At this point I am just considering this an incel brigade and blocking everyone. Cheers!
Well the world is insane then. Every women I have got to know in my life has been sexually assaulted including my mother, wife, and daughters. It is endemic in our society.
Thirty percent is actually a low estimate. In some studies almost forty percent of college males admit to using some form of coercion and ignoring consent. Fifteen percent of these would be considered rape by the laws of their jurisdictions.
Keep in mind these studies relied on people being honest so the actual numbers are much higher. There is also a huge disparity between sexual assault and sexual assault arrests and convictions.
Less than 4% of reported sexual assault end in a conviction. So that means there are a shit ton of people who will never face any consequences for what they did. Furthermore this does not even count all the sexual assaults that are not reported.
It is estimated only one third of sexual assaults are even reported. This is due to the stigma women face for reporting. Many don’t report because it is someone close to them and they are afraid. The ones that do report are often not taken seriously and dismissed without a report even filed.
I have personally witnessed this when I saw a trooper talk my sixteen year old babysitter out of pressing rape charges because the boy was the son of a city cop.
I am also a social worker by trade and I have worked for social service agencies like child welfare. I can confirm in my professional experience that sexual assault is an epidemic in our society
I have also worked with adult sexual offenders in the jail and through reentry programs. I know what it takes to bring a rapist back into the community. So don’t even play that I am crazy.
I will never forget taking my 16 year old babysitter to the Trooper Station after she was raped just to have an officer talk her out of pressing charges because the rapist was the son of a cop.
“White and Smith (in press) surveyed three cohorts of men across 4 years of college. By the end of the study, 14% had reported committing attempted or completed rape and 34% had reported at least one act of sexual assault perpetration.”
"Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completed rape; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion. "
No, the rate is around 30% of men have engaged in sexually aggressive behavior. It is endemic in our society hence why the majority of women have been sexually assaulted in their lifetime.
Do you have a source for the number because it seems entirely made up.
“White and Smith (in press) surveyed three cohorts of men across 4 years of college. By the end of the study, 14% had reported committing attempted or completed rape and 34% had reported at least one act of sexual assault perpetration.”
"Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completed rape; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion. "
And the link to that study is where?
You got enough information to look it up on scihub if you were actually interested.
I see so you are refusing to provide a link to a study despite the fact that it would so easily prove you right and everyone else wrong.
Seems like maybe the study doesn’t actually exist?
It is multiple studies, two different quotes.
Don’t cite sources. This isn’t about truth. Men’s feefees don’t care about facts and shit.
Oh yeah, I guessed that. Thanks.
Sorry, just a mistake i used to make a lot; citing sources has never convinced anyone. Closest ive ever seen work is exaggerating a number slightly so they correct you with the real-but-still-very-bad number,
They still don’t give a shit, but they do acknowledge it if you can get them to do that.
You would rather win the argument with one person than serve more people the source to read for themselves? If you quote a paper it should be sourced. If you don’t source it then it is suspicious and you are just creating conflict. Methods are important.
You don’t realize how insane that is to say, because you’re either not conscious or have no connection to material reality.
But then they cite it, which also saves me formatting a link.
The point is that nobody gives a shit and facts to not persuade. They sre not ammunition. Materialists are unicorns. You aren’t one because
Says the rape apologist in the thread full of men saying rapists aren’t real and they would totally know if they saw one in spite of all the other people, including OP, pointing out how thats bullshit, including this one beautiful quixotic fool citing a source and bring told ‘nuh uh’ while they’re downvoted to oblivion even when we cite academic studies to back our experiences.
Says the the person who actually advocated not citing sources. People do care, it’s just you like to be right and because reality does not agree with your perceived bias, you can’t find any scientific source to back it up, and therefore cannot source one. Your pettiness is your problem, not ours.
What’s the definition of sexually aggressive behavior? I’m not doubting this statistic but it doesn’t sound like it’s measuring the same thing here.
A range of actions that involve the use of force, coercion, or manipulation to engage in sexual activity without the victim’s consent. In other words, rape.
Do you have a link to where you got this from?
You have more than enough to look it up on scihub if you arent just a misogynist piece of shit and are asking because you’re genuinely interested
“White and Smith (in press) surveyed three cohorts of men across 4 years of college. By the end of the study, 14% had reported committing attempted or completed rape and 34% had reported at least one act of sexual assault perpetration.”
"Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completed rape; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion. "
That is pretty insane actually. I’d still like to read the whole article if it’s available somewhere. Thanks.
It is scientific journal stuff, pretty dry read honestly. You can find all this with Google search still. Cheers!
I know I can but if you’ve already got it up that would be easier and I feel it’s common courtesy to cite your sources. But alright, I will look for it on my own.
I like reading dry academic shit, it’s a certain disorder I’ve developed over the years.
Edit: I found this article which an almost identical section but the number in question was 14% rather than 24? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4484276/
14% is literally in the quote I gave you.
Edit: Those were two different studies.
As a rule you should just provide the sources you’re quoting from.
Otherwise, it just looks like it’s made up or the source is shitty so you don’t want to share the source because it would undermine what you’re quoting.
Just a thought for you.
Anyone can Google this. Blocked for being obstinate.
Not providing a proper link or proper reference (where link unavailable) is rather dodgy (& bad form) on the web, which was invented to solve this exact problem.
Sending people to go hunting for sources leaves much to chance, and they may fail to locate them. It’s simply not a logical way to support a claim or convince skeptics a claim is true if you care about your claim.
No one is obligated to care about your argument more than you, especially if you won’t care enough to support it properly.
Honestly it’s making me skeptical of their claim entirely.
I provided it for several other people that repeated exactly what you said. At this point I am just considering this an incel brigade and blocking everyone. Cheers!
This is insultingly untrue
Yeah! How dare they insult statistical-you with statistics!
#notallmen are 50% of men!
Made up bullshit isn’t a statistic
Cite a source or shut the fuck up, liar.
This you?
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Prove what, your hypocrisy? It’s self-evident, and I quoted you.
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Sure, whatever a bunch of rape apologist males say.
If you actually think nearly a third of all men are rapists, you need psychiatric help. That is literally insane.
Well the world is insane then. Every women I have got to know in my life has been sexually assaulted including my mother, wife, and daughters. It is endemic in our society.
Thirty percent is actually a low estimate. In some studies almost forty percent of college males admit to using some form of coercion and ignoring consent. Fifteen percent of these would be considered rape by the laws of their jurisdictions.
Keep in mind these studies relied on people being honest so the actual numbers are much higher. There is also a huge disparity between sexual assault and sexual assault arrests and convictions.
Less than 4% of reported sexual assault end in a conviction. So that means there are a shit ton of people who will never face any consequences for what they did. Furthermore this does not even count all the sexual assaults that are not reported.
It is estimated only one third of sexual assaults are even reported. This is due to the stigma women face for reporting. Many don’t report because it is someone close to them and they are afraid. The ones that do report are often not taken seriously and dismissed without a report even filed.
I have personally witnessed this when I saw a trooper talk my sixteen year old babysitter out of pressing rape charges because the boy was the son of a city cop.
I am also a social worker by trade and I have worked for social service agencies like child welfare. I can confirm in my professional experience that sexual assault is an epidemic in our society
I have also worked with adult sexual offenders in the jail and through reentry programs. I know what it takes to bring a rapist back into the community. So don’t even play that I am crazy.
… What does 30% of men have engaged in sexually aggressive behaviour mean?
Like it’s been a long long long tradition that women predominantly prefer to be “chased” and expect men to be aggressive.
30% isn’t a large number, that represents about 15% of the global population about 600 million people out of 8 billion approximately
I think you might want to rethink how you express your argument here because I don’t think this is what you are trying to communicate.
Again, what do you really mean when you use the term sexually aggressive?
Making them acknowledge this is misandry or something.
I guess this sub attracts a lot of incels.
Scratch a man, an incel bleeds?
Probably accurate for this sub at least.
I will never forget taking my 16 year old babysitter to the Trooper Station after she was raped just to have an officer talk her out of pressing charges because the rapist was the son of a cop.
Everywhere. They all seem to be like this. And they’re all so disingenuous about it.
Stop trying to downplay rape by calling it “sexually aggressive behaviour”, you rape apologist.
This is Witches versus Patriarchy not White Male Rape Apologist vs. Reality. Read the fucking room.
Says the person refusing to provide the source despite the fact that you presumably have it in front of you. Assuming you’re not making it up.
“White and Smith (in press) surveyed three cohorts of men across 4 years of college. By the end of the study, 14% had reported committing attempted or completed rape and 34% had reported at least one act of sexual assault perpetration.”
"Almost a quarter (24.5%) of these men acknowledged committing an act since the age of 14 that met standard legal definitions of attempted or completed rape; an additional 39% had committed another type of sexual assault involving forced sexual contact or verbal coercion. "
You seem to be such a nice person.
Please stop trying to help, it just makes it worse.