• Krudler@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Hard agree. The amount of alcohol that humans can safely consume is approaching zero.

    And … The Canada Alcohol Deficit studies indicate that our current alcohol deficit is over 6 billion dollars. Meaning that after we take in taxation on alcohol, and we deal with the social, health, and criminal costs, we’re down 6B (e: the linked article below shows just under 4Bn but that’s out of date)

    Not only do we need warning labels, but we need to literally double the price of alcohol imo

    https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/reports-publications/health-promotion-chronic-disease-prevention-canada-research-policy-practice/vol-40-no-5-6-2020/alcohol-deficit-canadian-government-revenue-societal-costs.html

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      4 days ago

      It is zero. I was shocked at the effects of trace amounts of ethanol seen to mitochondrial function in my lab. Far less than a single shot in the body.

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      8 days ago

      Labels are fine but increasing the price sounds ridiculous. I don’t drink alcohol but I cook with it all the time. I don’t need an increase in my grocery bill.

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          I’ve never used extracts before. Do you just reconstitute it? How does it fair in taste? I like making Japanese style sauces as well as french style reductions. I feel like this would be a very niche product outside of the common wines.

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        8 days ago

        Your rationale is I don’t want to pay more because I don’t want to.

        I understand, nobody does want to pay more for things, but the way taxation is structured means every bottle has a net cost to society. That’s not a justifiable or defensible position.

        And your claim that you just cook with it is highly specious.

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          8 days ago

          The assumptions you’re making are out of this world. Your reaching at things past criticalilty.

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            8 days ago

            What the hell are you talking about, can you not connect the dots of a basic conversation?

            Alcohol is a net detraction from our society… You don’t want it to go up in price because you enjoy the product and want it to be cheap. And you really don’t care if your ability to get it cheap means that it harms our society.

            I feel like I’m talking to an infant here

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              7 days ago

              I don’t think you’ve considered all of the factors. The thing with alcohol is that it’s very cheap and very easy to produce in your own home. What you’re suggesting risks the development of black market bootlegging and all of the problems associated with it.

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      8 days ago

      Education is the important part. I’m astounded that some people don’t know how bad alcohol is…

      My grandpa was dry and an uncle was alcoholic for a long time. My upbringing was never shy from talking about the negative effects of alcohol.

      However, our society is built such that alcohol is part of the machine to keep the anxiety at bay. Forcing a reduction of alcohol consumption by itself is a bad idea, as it would make all the anxiety problems worst. Make sure people know how dangerous it is, but allow people to find other tools to help where alcohol is used.

      How to you break the social barrier of low confidence and shyness in young adults? How to you recharge and reset the overworked office brain? How to you release muscle tension after a long day of sports?

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      8 days ago

      Hard agree. The amount of alcohol that humans can safely consume is approaching zero.

      The reality hasn’t changed, only our understanding of it.