• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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      And they STILL think this. And before Canadians get all smug, look at how popular Smith and Ford are and how Poilievre got elected by a landslide in AB. The more Doug grifts, the better he does in polls.

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    Setting aside my Trump hate for a moment: this is a good thing. “Department of Defense” was always a euphemism. “Defense spending” my ass. Let’s call it what it is and then see if Americans feel as good about spending so much on a “Department of War” versus “Defense.”

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      This isn’t a good thing because it’s not an effort to be more honest, it’s a signal of future intent.

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      Do not underestimate this country’s propensity to proudly engage in jingoism. Just look at our history to see how that went.

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      Thinking like that its a good thing right up until the voters are actually stoked about a department of war.

      Guarantee it wont be long until youre seeing red hats going off about how cool it is they finally have a department of war as if its a whole new thing.

      “Remember how much ass we kicked with only a defense department? Look out world! MIGHTY TRUMP finally made a department of war too!”

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        I’m sure you’re right about a certain segment of people. I don’t think the euphemistic name is holding those people back from loving the military though.

        I do think it’s hard for Congress to sell the general public on “cuts to our defense” though, and cuts to the “Department of war” will be an easier sell.

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    It’s the same reason Captain America beats people up with a shield.

    It’s hard to think of yourselves as as a saviour otherwise.

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    Is it bad that my thought was “well at least that’s more accurate”?

    My mind went to how “the department of defense” was Orwellian AF. I mean his reasoning is fucked don’t get me wrong.

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        You can tell he’s never read 1984, he’d definitely want more ironically named government departments if he had

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          I mean, “Truth Social” has all the irony of the Ministry of Truth, though I assume if it was named for that reason it wasn’t thought up by him.

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      Yeah, in this rare instance, I agree with Uncle Donny. The US hasnt fought a war for peace or defense in over 75 years. Might as well change the name to more accurately depict its purpose. He is still a moron though…

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    Defense product >> WAR MACHINE

    Military Contractor >> MERCENARY

    Ambassador >> SPY MASTER

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    “we want offense too”
    The obese imbecile being alive is offensive. The fact that it breathes is offensive.
    And the fact that it’s not strapped to a guillotine that’s got a blunt rusty blade is fucking offensive!

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    Not relevant to trump, but: it is ironic that we (the US) haven’t fought a genuinely defensive war since 1812, and we only managed a draw in that one (which included our capital being burned to the ground and our greatest victory coming after it was technically over) because our opponent was busy fighting a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys (and only winning because the fucking Germans helped out).

    Edit: it’s hard to imagine somebody using the expression “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” and being serious about it, but I guess some people can imagine that.

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        In the sense of genuinely defending our own country from invasion or destruction? Definitely not. Hawaii wasn’t a state at the time and the Japanese never had plans to invade it anyway.

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      I assume you mean the French?

      You do know they’re the most successful military in human history right?

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              The term gained political traction in the US, especially in right-wing circles, when Jonah Goldberg, a columnist for the National Review magazine, used it in the title of an April 1999 column on the “Top Ten Reasons to Hate the French”.[11] In the run up to and during the Iraq War, Goldberg reprised it to criticize European nations and France in particular for not joining the Coalition of the Willing, the United States-led invasion and occupation of Iraq.[2]

              You should read what you link, it’s right wing adjacent because right wingers ruin everything fun with a disturbing lack of nuance.

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                Of course others have taken it to express hatred. But it wasn’t originally meant to be used in that way by the writer, and that’s the point I intended to make. I’m not arguing whether it’s right or wrong, I just noticed that its origin hadn’t been mentioned yet and figured it was worth mentioning.

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                  Of course others have taken it to express hatred. But it wasn’t originally meant to be used in that way by the writer, and that’s the point I intended to make.

                  The entire point of the joke is that we’re both rude and ignorant and rude out of ignorance.