• Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
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    Lol I would be so happy if every single time Trump’s name was mentioned/written/broadcast/etc, it was with his age.

    Well, I’d be happiest if he was dead.

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    I know Walz/Harris was impossible given the Biden lead-up and Harris running the show after, but if Walz was the ticket leader I think Trump would have lost.

    Trump is a dark triad personality wearing a working-man’s death mask, and his base sees it and marvels at how “real” he is. But Walz knows how to actually be real, actually communicate like a regular guy, and is just good in the way middle America likes to imagine itself.

    His Harris campaign bounce following “weird” would likely have held the swing state firewall, until Harris decided she wanted to bring in Liz Cheney and put a muzzle on Walz to not offend (or inspire) anyone. Given our poor Democrat name recognition options (Harris, Newsom…Jefferies?), maybe Walz is our best hope, if we somehow make it to a fair election in 2028.

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      I disagree. Walz/harris/biden were all bandaids to the root cause. The direction of the us now was inevitable - whether it was done now or 4 years from now or 8. And maybe on some level we got lucky with t, he’s a lot of things but a genius he is not. In any case, the bandaid has been ripped off and perhaps in 50 years the us will actually support its citizens. We just need to survive until then…

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      I mean, if Harris could have found it within herself to “actually be real” and fire the dipshit advisors telling her to obsessively triangulate on nonexistent conservative swing voters, she could’ve won too – even without switching around the ticket.

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      if Walz was the ticket leader I think Trump would have lost.

      Setting aside the fact that he’s got more charisma than a tree stump, he’s also a middle aged white guy in a country that reflexively defers to that kind of person.

      I don’t think Walz solves for Trump’s biggest advantage - Silicon Valley broke for him and turned social media fully against the Democratic Party. He would have done less bad than Harris, particularly in the Midwest. But winning? Idk, still feels like a coin toss to me. He’s not flipping Arizona or Georgia like Biden managed.

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        Hard disagree on the AZ front. The heelturn parading around Liz Cheney resulted in waaaaay too many “SEE THEY’RE THE SAME” protest votes or people staying at home.

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          Cuddling up to Cheney was party of Harris’s effort to look like a Never Trumper.

          She thought it would differentiate her and she got very upset when people accused her of looking like a Republican as a result.

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      I voted for Harris because of Walz. If she had picked another wallpaper running mate like Tim Kaine it would have been a lot harder.

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        How does that make sense? There is not a single thing that could have happened to make me even CONSIDER voting for Trump. Harris could have chosen a shit-flinging gibbon, and I would voted for her.

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            Yeah, she’s an authoritarian cunt.

            Still, wasn’t hard to care against Mango Mussolini.

            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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              wasn’t hard to care against Mango Mussolini.

              Liberals keep saying this, because they weren’t out in the trenches stumping for Harris while getting actively spit on.

              Like, this isn’t just a matter of voting. It’s a matter of staffing campaign offices and galvanizing low info voters in Midwestern swing states.

              Who is going to canvas the neighborhoods once you’ve told all those Penn State freshman with Bernie Sanders bumper stickers and watermelon flags to fuck off? Who is going to phone bank? Who is going to knock doors and host rallies?

              Harris shed fifteen million votes in no small part because she told her activist party base she didn’t need them to win.

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                Bullshit. They rigged the machines in the swing states to switch Harris for Trump. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of straight Dem tickets with Trump at the top, even though we’ve never heard from a single voter who voted that way.

                Where are these diehard Dems who vote for Trump? Or Trumpers who vote all Dem? They don’t exist, the election was rigged.

                And we all know it. Without the White House, he’d be sitting in prison for the rest of his life right now. The guy’s entire life is defined by cheating in every possible way, but now we’re supposed to believe that the one election that would keep him out of prison, is the one election he ran “fair & square?”

                Any Dem who believes that is as deluded as any MAGA.

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                  They rigged the machines in the swing states to switch Harris for Trump.

                  That’s a big claim. I’m confident you have some big evidence to explain how Biden won in 2020 with similarly rigged machines?

                  That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of straight Dem tickets with Trump at the top

                  We didn’t have millions of straight Dem tickets with Trump at the top. We had millions of tickets with only Trump selected and the downballot ignored.

                  Trump votes outnumbers a bunch of downticket winners, particularly in the purple swing states (Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania). North Carolina was a peculiar case, in which the Dem Governor outran Harris by 300k votes while Trump outran his GOP Gov candidate by 600k votes.

                  A bunch of these races just highlighted how big a disparity was between Trump and the rest of the GOP versus Harris and the rest of the Dems. He was unusually popular. She was unusually intolerable.

                  Without the White House, he’d be sitting in prison for the rest of his life right now.

                  If only there had been a four year span during which he might have been prosecuted. Ah well.

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                “thank god I can vote against the Nazi now, him being a Nazi wasn’t enough”

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                  No shit. I’d have crawled across glass to vote for Harris. Fuck Trump and stop blaming Biden for people supporting that nazi ass bitch.

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                  Not if the alternate was solely a Nazi in sheeps clothing.

                  Same problem as Clinton, really. If either Clinton or Harris had been elected, we never would have known where the bottom was, they’re better at hiding it than Trump.

                  Marginally better than Trump is a low fucking bar, but no other viable alternatives so…

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          Don’t worry, they’ll do some mental gymnastics to assure you that Harris was somehow just as bad.

          Usually walking back to Palestine. Like, we get, it but the current regime was understood to be worse for everyone, including Palestine.

          Edit: https://i.imgur.com/2EPlkhf.png

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              It was really hard to vote for a woman and not an fascist dictatorship

              Edit: Sorry, black woman… because sexism isn’t enough, you got to be racist also

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      Exactly, what made the democratic party think a biracial woman was a good candidate against Trump of all people, like clearly the country is not ready for that, all they needed was another old white guy and they just handed Trump the election instead

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        Hillary won the popular vote, and Obama was one of our most popular presidents. While yes, sexism and racism played a role in Harris’ failure, it wasn’t the main problem. Her being a terrible politician, running a terrible campaign, on the coat-tails of a terrible president was the main problem.

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          Hilary is a white woman, Obama first ran in 2008 which was a very different America, and his opponents were still sane people. Kamla was running against a second term Trump, everyone knows how crazy some people in this country have become the last few years, she was a bad choice regardless of her politics or Biden’s performance.

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    Just a quick note - He’s human excrement who has cankles. He’s not human excrement BECAUSE he has cankles. :)

    Ditto Greg Abbott. He’s a waste of space in a wheelchair, he’s not a waste of space BECAUSE he’s in a wheelchair.

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    Walz reminisced about his former running mate, Kamala Harris, stating she “would have been a fantastic president,” and that if she had won, “we would wake up to an adult with compassion and dignity and leadership doing the work, not a manchild crying about whatever is wrong with him. May his fat ankles find something today. Petty as hell.” His audience broke into a round of raucous applause.

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    Ol’ Tim “I agree with everything JD Vance said during our debate” Walz over here.

    I actually don’t blame him for that, really. The campaign started off great and then they got too scared. Instead of leaning into what was working, they backed off and neutered Walz.