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jeffw@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

Trump goes all in on Nazi rhetoric, and the media gives him another free pass

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Trump goes all in on Nazi rhetoric, and the media gives him another free pass

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In any other America on any other timeline, a presidential candidate echoing the words of Adolf Hitler would soon be packing up for an early retirement. We clearly don’t live in any of those Americ…
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    Back in my day a weird yell was enough to kill your run.

    Just a yeeaaoowww and you’re done. Now, if you’re Trump and you are literally strangling someone to the point that they make that sound, you’re presidential material because “that person getting choked was probably a democrat pedophile communist so he deserves it.”

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      I agree, the more negative shit he does, the more momentum he gains with the right.

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      Trump has said and done enough things to kill his run, too… But Republicans and conservatives wanted him to win, so the media machine was on his side, instead of against him.

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        It’s because republicans demand “Fairness”, and define it as “You can’t say something bad about us without saying something bad about Democrats, even if you have to make a false equivalence.”

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      It was altered by the press to sound extra weird. It was a regular whoop in a cheering crowd, but isolate the mic and hey-presto it sounds weird.

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        I don’t think it was altered, I heard that he was using a microphone that was designed to not pick up crowd noise

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      A yell was at least brazen and bold. A later candidate got canned for “Please Clap”

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      That yell was glorious

      • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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        Reminded me of the Lion King when Simba is a baby trying to roar, same effect too.

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    The media is also avoiding reporting about all the parts of the rightwing plan.

    They are as follow:

    1-Argue that Article 2 of the Constitution gives the president power to do whatever he wants.

    https://www.axios.com/2023/05/21/trump-2025-visionhttps://www.axios.com/2023/05/21/trump-2025-vision

    2-Fire the civil service and replace it with Trump loyalists.

    https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-conservatives-trump-heritage-857eb794e505f1c6710eb03fd5b58981

    3-Immediately implement the insurrection act and use the military to fight protesters.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-mulling-deploying-military-to-streets-on-day-1-if-elected-report-says

    4-Use the DoJ to target critics

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-presidential-justice-department-probes-barr-kelly-milley-cobb-2023-11

    5-Weaken the election security agency

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republicans-gop-president-curb-election-security-agency-angered/story?id=102261352

    6-Reject climate change

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/27/project-2025-dismantle-us-climate-policy-next-republican-president

    7-Remove all LGBTQ+ protections

    https://www.metroweekly.com/2023/09/right-wing-project-2025-seeks-to-eradicate-lgbtq-protections/

    8-Bring the Bible into government

    https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/project-2025-heritage-foundation-christian-nationalism-rcna103510

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      The media is avoiding it…like all the media cited in this post? Or the NY Times article today discussing many of the points in those articles? Or the OP article? I’m so tired of news outlets reporting on news outlets. The news isn’t news, I want actual news about events.

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        Like I had to include that many different outlets in order to provide a full picture. FYI, APNews reported about this in late August. The fact that the NYT is telling you about it this week means that something very wrong occurred for two months while they didn’t.

        The rightwing having a 1000-page guide to their overthrow of the country is what I would call the most important event of this year on US soil.

        Do you want to only be told about the climate change rejection and not the other plans? That’s what’s fucked up.

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      You can say “shit” on the Internet.

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      Are these news articles? Or are they opinions or editorials? Big difference.

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    The argument isn’t that they aren’t covering it, it’s that they covered it and haven’t continued reporting it over and over again.

    But it happened 4 days ago, and as I search right now there are articles from the New York Times, USA Today, NBC News, CNN, The Hill, all from the last 24hrs. They ARE still covering it.

    And the articles mostly call it out as echoing Nazi language, I don’t see how you could claim that they aren’t covering it negatively enough either.

    There is just nothing to this complaint.

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      I see how you mean, but the complaint is that “Trump echoes Nazi language” is the most limp, passive and normalizing spin possible. The man is unhinged and utterly disastrous. Use those words, say that.

      They “can’t” because “journalism” which I also disagree with, but it’s a different conversation.

      As far as there being articles about the speech, that’s not at issue. Corporate news outlets have a huge guilty verdict against them for running cover for trump at every level in 2016. From the tone, to the spin, to the format, to the rationale; “both sides” and “her emails” and 1000 hot takes as to Clinton’s perceived missteps it all worked hand-in-hand with russian hacking, propaganda, and illegal campaign contributions to support trump.

      If corporate news wants to live in a free and fair democracy, the have GOT to figure out how to call trump what he is, because this format from the 50’s will doom us all. This speech is a prime example.

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      Trump saying that out loud happened 4 days ago. This plan is not new this week. There are bits and pieces of new coverage going back a couple months.

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    The road to Trumps authoritarian America will be paved with lenient judges and federal agencies that don’t enforce laws against him.

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    The corporate news media will absolutely not stop Donald Trump. He will cut their investors’ taxes.

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    MSM NEWS: MEDIA NOT COVERING TRUMP BEING NAZI!

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      I’ve said this elsewhere in another topic, but the News Media has a vested financial interest in a second Trump presidency, because people eventually burn out on the daily mass shooting coverage and various orphan grinding reports.

      But trump? people turned in every day to find out what latest buffoonery the incompetent pumpkin faced buffoon did, with no burn out, with no exhaustion. Driving ratings, and viewership numbers.

      and they will do everything they can to celebrate his actions in outlandish news coverage, while minimizing the worst parts of it, So everyone will watch the dancing monkey’s dancing, with the ultimate goal being a second Trump presidency and all the delicious attention and ratings that would bring with it.

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    And yet I’ve somehow heard about it a hundred times in 2 days from the media.

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      Yeah it’s been pretty well discussed on multiple platforms. Literally every social media platform, plus AP News, etc.

      AP is literally quoting a senator about how a Trump presidency would be a disaster, one of the top stories this morning: https://apnews.com/article/west-virginia-joe-manchin-senate-5fa02d965a72526488859bc0866c06dd

      Zoomers expect the MSM to make everything an editorial.

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        I believe every show on MSNBC opened with it. Is that not MS enough?

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      Some news sources have taken to producing articles that are essentially drawn out virtue signalling tweets. I’m guessing because they are often met with a positive reception on Twitter, as well as a lot of head nodding and smug knowing looks.

      It’s moral grandstanding without an ounce of actual conviction and, ultimately, click bait.

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    The media just wants clicks. They don’t care if it’s good news, bad news, fake news, etc.

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    Course it did, they haven’t learned that “Fairness” is a scam when you’ve got a bad faith agent

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    The media has fully given up on giving pushback to anything when it comes to any powerful person or corporation.

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    So what we’re learning here is not only did unregulated free speech fail (rise of Nazism, proliferation of CP on 4Chan and 8Kun) but that unregukated free press has also failed miserably (serving only capitalism and not at all for public good).

    Nice job, Reagan and Clinton.

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    It’s not like they can call him out on it. They might get death threats from his nazi followers.

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