Leave it to big tech to introduce the same exact product with less features while they gaslight you into believing it’s a shiny new product that you should be excited about.
Give it a year after people has gotten used to it and forgot how it was. They’ll sell it back to you as a premium feature.
The Lemmy app I’m using to post this has video scrubbing as a premium feature #Avelon
Big tech is about big money, it has less and less to do with tech
The new feature is how much they shove them down your throat.
When I see “New and improved!!” all I get is “We have found a way to make more money, and we sure as fuck ain’t passing the earnings to you”, or potentially “We faced a lawsuit so have since begun to follow the smallest possible set of FDA guidelines the law allows for”
Sure our product is made by Filipino children, and sure it pollutes pristine wetlands, and yes, it does unfairly contribute to an insanely skewed distribution of wealth, but think of the INNOVATION!
You described Apple perfectly
YouTube is the worst with this, because they’ve even gone so far as to convert older videos under 1 minute to shorts. They weren’t uploaded as shorts, but now congratulations you can’t scrub through the video or share a timestamped link anymore.
I think there’s client sided stuff to do to solve that still, I’m 90% sure on my pc shorts open as normal videos due to an add-on I added a long time ago (the most popular for modding the look and feel of it, someone definitely can add it because I’m out of the house)
EDIT: Someone who deleted their comment (saw the notification that stayed) got it right, it was Enhancer for YouTube. It’s the bees’ knees, very recommended for everything (except adblock, for that get uBlock origin)
I think it’s called YouTube shorts block
Yeah don’t have the name now but at least for Firefox there is an addon that just plays them as normal videos.
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This comment is what happens when I try to reply to the deleted comment from the other guy. I think it’s because you must have commented after they deleted theirs, and maybe took their comment id or something.
Neat.
Has anyone noticed YouTube’s video compression has become much worse lately?
I tried watching a video I’ve seen before and I felt like I stepped back into 2007 again. That same video wasn’t like that last year.
I would not be surprised at all if they are ramping up their compression algorithm to save additional bandwidth. Netflix has been feeling like that too. Blacks are a mess on both now. I get that it costs money but man you got to question where all of it is going for how much they make.
Netflix definitely increased 1080p compression (or said better, nerfed it). 1080p even looks a little pixelated on my mobile phone now when it looked great on a PC monitor a few years ago.
Yet another +1 in piracy’s favor. Never had a video I got through a 🧲 look like shit
Yes. Auto is essentially the “720p or less but we’re gonna lie and say it’s 1080p still” option now. I’m constantly having to manually choose my resolution to get the full bitrate.
YouTube Enhancer for the win. Or Revanced if you’re on Android.
It really makes their tests for the higher bit rate “1080p Premium” quality just seem like reducing the current 1080p and locking out the one we already had.
There was that whole controversy about the Wish trailers because of Youtube compression…
If you pause the video you can scrub by dragging the end of the bar. It’s terrible UX but it’s technically possible
OMG! I didn’t know that! Thank you! I’ve been having to watch videos again from the start when I accidentally navigate away.
Granted it’s a short time frame but still.
You don’t have to pause for this. I can just scroll from the thin red bottom bar
The thin red line.
You can scrub shorts on mobile (might have to pause it first), but not desktop for some reason…
It’s annoying, but you can covert the garbage at the end of like the youtube.com/shorts/afaftxsdds to youtube.com/watch?v=afaftxsdds and it’ll behave and be able to be interacted with like a normal video.
Considering you just have to change a word I wonder why did they implement the features that people want and lock it behind a word change. What am I saying thinking more about this is just making the mistake of assuming morons don’t exist.
They fucking what!?
Anyway, the “Enhancer for YouTube” addon has an option to force a normal player for the shorts.
Now that you mention it I sometimes forget I have YouTube enhancer until I stop and remember oh wait YouTube isn’t normally monochromatic blue. Man I had too much fun redesigning my YouTube css.
Firefox, right click, show video controls
Revanced + disable shorts components
The best days of the internet are behind us.
Early ebaumsworld was peak
Somethingawful forums!
StumbleUpon!
As a big contributor to YTMND back in the day, I’m honor-bound to hate you just a little bit for that.
Seriously, Youtube Shorts, Tiktok, Facebook stories can go to hell.
Let’s build the Internet again, starting from Lemmy, Mastodon, etc. One step at a time.
That’s why we all are here, aren’t we
I also hate players where the overlay doesn’t go away. My girlfriend still watches videos on Facebook sometimes, and when she sends them to me, it always drives me crazy. You can’t see like 30% of the video, often the part of the screen where the captions are
Instagram reels and TikTok are the worst for this. Half the screen is useless shit.
Tbf a lot of the actual content is useless shit too
Right? The less I see of that shit the better. Make the whole video view one big playback interface, I’d rather fuck around with that.
You can hide it all on tik tok iirc
Especially with no volume knob on desktop. What in the actual fuck?
As someone with a physical volume nob on all my speakers … what
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If you have access to a Desktop.Whywouldyoueverbe on TikTok?If you have access to a Desktop.Whywould you eve be on TikTok?
It’s designed to keep you rewatching until you get the info you want or give up and keep scrolling. Eroding your attention span in the process.
TikTok is an evil platform that I will never use till the day I die. Don’t @ me
@TheBlue22
TikTok has video controls you can move to any part of the video. It also has 2x play speed.
The meme lied?!?!
How can someone do this? Lie on the Internet!!!
All jokes aside, I am wrong in this specific regard then, but in my opinion the way the tiktok is designed as a whole is extremely harmful.
And you can hold down on the left-hand side of the screen to go to 2x temporarily, like YouTube does (but doesn’t do for shorts). I find that very convenient.
I always wondered why people say “Don’t at me”. Finally figured out its because it meant to be “@” as in a ping.
@ me
if they had their way they’d glue you to your seat, staple your eyes open, pin your arms down and play endless ads at you, purchasing on your behalf (with your credit card, of course) every time you watched one. Your ability to choose interferes with their business, which is sodomizing you and your family’s wallets.
VLC Media player is still the best way to watch a video.
mpv for me
MPC-BE gang 💪
TikTok has controls now actually.
There’s a scrollbar, playback speed, PIP mode, zoom, captions, and you can remove the Like, Comment, Share buttons as well (they call it Clear Display mode). Videos with different aspect ratios can also be put in landscape mode for better viewing.
Hopefully that means all the trend chasers trying to copy tiktok will copy that too.
Now? They’ve had controls for nearly 2 years at least.
If the site that hosts the video you want me to watch doesn’t have an audio slider, I won’t fucking watch it.
GET OUT HERE AND WATCH YOUR FAKE PODCAST HIGHLIGHTS
Can we standardized the PornHub video player already?
PornHub is going to rebrand and take over the video streaming market, watch.
If I recall correctly there are already people uploading tutorials on porn hub. Granted there tutorials like how to sterilize a flesh light or how to draw a wolf dick. Stuff like that.
Really, people are most familiar with this rhan any other.
It’s designed to be controlled with only one hand.
YT Shorts, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook Reels… These are things I just don’t bother watching.
The only reason social media companies took the controls away is because they know the videos being uploaded are shit but they want you to watch the whole thing for engagement. So they take away the controls to force that engagement. Go fuck yourself.
Also people who upload using these services - especially Shorts and Reels when other options exist on the same damn platform - are literally worse than Hitler.
Comparing video uploaders to genocidal dictators is a bit much. Especially when you can just use yt-dlp and watch the video in a media player instead
literally worse than Hitler.
Any minute now, somebody’s gonna argue that it’s incorrect to use literally this way. Happens every time I see the word used here on Lemmy lol
There’s a name for that - it’s called Cunningham’s Law.
True, but only given that the first comment was wrong, which I wouldn’t say so. But I’ve seen people who would, so it works lol
And they’re wrong every time. You can use “literally” as a rhetorical exaggeration, bam, debate over. They’re the same as the “could care less” crowd. “I already care very little, but I could care even less”, solves it.
Well. You kind of did. Are you like Switzerland here?
Oh no haha, I don’t agree that it’s incorrect. I’m firmly on the pro-literally-as-a-hyperbole side lol
Shorts You can replace ‘short’ in the link to ‘v’ and its a regular video page and doesnt repeat and plays in the normal player
There’s also the Firefox browser pluggin shorts blocker
Idk about shorts but for TikTok, creators have the ability to turn this feature on or off, this isn’t the norm.
YouTube shorts do have controls, you can scrub through the video with the progress bar along the bottom edge of the screen? Unless they’re getting rid of it.
It doesn’t super matter to me, I try really hard to avoid short form content. My attention span is bad enough as-is
It used to not work like that when shorts first came out, there wasn’t even a bottom bar iirc this must be an old meme
Gotcha, that makes sense
you can scrub through the video with the progress bar along the bottom edge of the screen?
Stop leaving question marks at the end of statements.
I will do what I please, thank you very much.
The point of language is to convey ideas, and sometimes the most succinct way to communicate what you think and that you’re open to people disagreeing or alternative perspectives is to end a statement with a question mark.
Telling other people how to communicate because what they said disagrees with rules you arbitrarily made up is dumb. The text you quoted conveyed exactly what I meant.
Its annoying? All it does is convey an inflection? People that talk like this in real life are fucking idiots?
If you misuse it to convey an inflection that doesn’t contextually make sense and use it over and over again, yes, it certainly is annoying.
You know what else is annoying? Badgering random people on the internet about using language in a way that you wouldn’t, despite the fact that it served their needs perfectly and conveyed exactly what they meant. You might even say that it’s something only “fucking idiots” who desperately need to feel smarter than others would do…
Also, in what world is “it only conveys inflection” a meaningful criticism- inflection is a vital part of communication thats often lost when interacting with people online. It helps convey what I mean, and therefore is an important part of communicating.
I would never do that?
The bar is there, but I’ve never actually gotten it to work, it ignores any presses/clicks that I make
Why are there so many people in the comments staning YouTube?
I, for once, defend Youtube because at least it allows me to change the volume via an extension (YT Magic or whatever the name is).
On the other end, all of the Vine (yes, I am that old) style videos don’t have native volume control, which drives me insane. Talking about PC, phone has it’s own built in VC. Kinda explains where the market is going, eh?
Wait I’m sorry, you’re defending Youtube… because a third-party extension re-adds the controls they don’t provide?
Well, yes. I defend their “short videos” part, not the site as a whole.
Do you think YouTube’s UI is bad?
For these stupid fucking shorts, definitely. Yes.
It is. Without extensions removing clutter it’s a bad mess.
