I mean given what’s been happening these last two years and given US imperial wars since 1945, World War 2 looks less like a fight between fascism and democracy and more like a battle over which flavour of genocidal white supremacy would rule: Teutonic or Anglo Saxon.
So let me get this straight… you think it would have been better or roughly the same to let Hitler continue killing millions of Jewish people, gay people, black people, and Roma people because the US has allowed Israel to kill a couple hundred thousand Palestinians?
Don’t get me wrong, I am very much against the genocide happening in Gaza and no longer want to live in the US based on how the rest of the country is acting now. And I get how much damage we have caused over the last 50 years. But holy shit what an unbelievably stupid take to think letting the Nazis been would have been equivalent… just wow.
We will never know the counterfactual but the paradigm that this was a black and white struggle against a genocidal regime has been completely discredited by the US sponsored genocide in Gaza. It’s clear that genocide, ethnic cleansing, and mass murder, which were once cited as justifications for destroying the Nazi regime, are now treated as non-issues when applied by the US to maintain its global hegemony. I’m being downvoted because this is a polemical and unorthodox opinion but I’m certain this will become a more mainstream view, at least in academia, now that the mask has fallen on what the US Empire really stands for.
You’re being downvoted because you’re doing the “I’m 13 and this is deep.” If you are equating putting millions of people into furnaces with the stated cause to eradicate them, to supplying arms to a country that is bombing a country without care for who dies with the stated cause of rescuing their hostages (bullshit) and avenging an attack on their soil (true), then you have no idea the scope of WW2.
You are also saying that since we did something bad now that our actions 85 years ago are now invalid. I can’t even begin to describe how stupid that makes you sound. Again, I agree with saying that the US is the villain right now and doing awful, horrific things. But A) you really have no concept how bad WW2 was, and B) nobody has any idea how bad it would have gotten if the US hadn’t stepped in during WW2. The whole world should be fighting Israel and the US on what is going on right now. But that doesn’t suddenly make what we did 85 years ago an evil action. It’s such a mind-bogglingly stupid take.
If you think our bad actions now mean all of our previous actions are bad, then that means you think us supporting Ukraine is also bad. Do you think the US should stop supporting Ukraine?
Er yeah I have the benefit of hindsight. That’s how historical assessment works. My comment was on US policy since 1945 culminating in the dismantling of the pretence of international law to effect a genocide so not sure what recency bias means in that context.
Thanks for the insult though, nicely sums up what passes for debate on World News.
I mean given what’s been happening these last two years and given US imperial wars since 1945, World War 2 looks less like a fight between fascism and democracy and more like a battle over which flavour of genocidal white supremacy would rule: Teutonic or Anglo Saxon.
So let me get this straight… you think it would have been better or roughly the same to let Hitler continue killing millions of Jewish people, gay people, black people, and Roma people because the US has allowed Israel to kill a couple hundred thousand Palestinians?
Don’t get me wrong, I am very much against the genocide happening in Gaza and no longer want to live in the US based on how the rest of the country is acting now. And I get how much damage we have caused over the last 50 years. But holy shit what an unbelievably stupid take to think letting the Nazis been would have been equivalent… just wow.
We will never know the counterfactual but the paradigm that this was a black and white struggle against a genocidal regime has been completely discredited by the US sponsored genocide in Gaza. It’s clear that genocide, ethnic cleansing, and mass murder, which were once cited as justifications for destroying the Nazi regime, are now treated as non-issues when applied by the US to maintain its global hegemony. I’m being downvoted because this is a polemical and unorthodox opinion but I’m certain this will become a more mainstream view, at least in academia, now that the mask has fallen on what the US Empire really stands for.
You’re being downvoted because you’re doing the “I’m 13 and this is deep.” If you are equating putting millions of people into furnaces with the stated cause to eradicate them, to supplying arms to a country that is bombing a country without care for who dies with the stated cause of rescuing their hostages (bullshit) and avenging an attack on their soil (true), then you have no idea the scope of WW2.
You are also saying that since we did something bad now that our actions 85 years ago are now invalid. I can’t even begin to describe how stupid that makes you sound. Again, I agree with saying that the US is the villain right now and doing awful, horrific things. But A) you really have no concept how bad WW2 was, and B) nobody has any idea how bad it would have gotten if the US hadn’t stepped in during WW2. The whole world should be fighting Israel and the US on what is going on right now. But that doesn’t suddenly make what we did 85 years ago an evil action. It’s such a mind-bogglingly stupid take.
If you think our bad actions now mean all of our previous actions are bad, then that means you think us supporting Ukraine is also bad. Do you think the US should stop supporting Ukraine?
The genocide is not an aberration it is a logical outcome of imperial white supremacy.
You are labouring under the assumption that America is the good guy. Go read Chomsky or something.
You have the benefit of hindsight and are subject to the recency bias for myriad reasons. What a brain-dead take.
Er yeah I have the benefit of hindsight. That’s how historical assessment works. My comment was on US policy since 1945 culminating in the dismantling of the pretence of international law to effect a genocide so not sure what recency bias means in that context.
Thanks for the insult though, nicely sums up what passes for debate on World News.