Being that post war Britain has defined itself as Britain’s greatest hour was defeating the Nazis, this isn’t a wise thing to say.
This is a weak point of the British Far Right. They can’t wrap themselves up in the Union Jack and claim to honour Churchill, while actually being Nazis. It’s a weakness of us those opposed to the far right need to be pointing to a lot more.
What is it with the rise of the spineless morons at the moment?
How dare you? Spines are one of the few bones snakes DO have.
The fact that so many people listen to these cunts is disheartening
This kid was barely a wiggle in a nutsack when 9/11 happened and then all the other events that followed. These little twats have been handed everything and had to earn nothing. The only thing we should be giving them is daily ass beatings in public.
I’m sure Farage would have been better off. Not sure the country would have been.
Reform really can’t keep quiet about their Nazi tendencies can they, they are all too thick to shut up.
Lemmy says UK would be better off if Farage did not exist in it
We would never have had that stupid Brexit without hm, so fair to say Lemmy is right.
No. Please. We can’t be having people led astray by TikToks made by this knock-off Chalamet with a bad haircut. Stop it. We’re being silly.
Instead of The King we get Guy of Gisbourne from Maid Marion.
It would certainly have been more comfortable for all the upper class supporters of Hitler
I was under the impression that the UK didn’t have a choice in that one
Then you need to dramatically reread your history. The Nazis were pretty ready to share the world with the British Empire and absolutely would’ve preferred to not get into it with them anytime soon but Britain decided it was going to do total war to prevent the Nazis overtaking mainland Europe.
They said something similar to the Russians.
This isn’t based on sketchy diplomacy at the time, this is based on private writings gone over by historians. Also, Britain declared war on Germany in response to the war in Europe, not the other way around…
Right, but to be fair Britain had no access to the nazi leaderships’ private writings at the time, and really couldn’t be sure if they felt that way, and we can’t be sure the nazis might have changed their minds in the face of a meeker and weaker British response.
So overall, I think perhaps the British response was pretty close to forced out, despite the theoretical full knowledge scenario of coexistence.
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Yeah because we need loads of fascists in the world. It’s bad enough with the lot we’ve got.
I mean the world would definitely do well with fewer fascists, but from a realpolitik perspective was there a benefit is what I’m asking.
Realpolitik perspective defeating the nazis still feels like a good long term investment for Britain (though admittedly at enormous cost). We lost our empire, but we prevented a pan Europe empire forming right next to us. A united Europe with an expansionist bent would be the biggest threat to Britain I can imagine. Even if they left us alone for a while they’d surpass in capability once they had a chance to rebuild from the war, and at some point they’d start pushing their weight around, and we’d lose our empire then presumably they’d gobble us up on their way to a squabble with the US or something.
We won ww2 to keep Europe separated.
From the same perspective, brexit was a real blunder: a united Europe and we’re sat on the sidelines waiting to see what they do next? And now the Russians are forcing them to arm up and work together, we’ve practically recreated the lose scenario of ww2, admittedly with less nazis (which I admit is a pretty major win).
Edit to repeat: this is the realpolitik perspective, my real view is that the empire loss was a win for the world in general, the Nazis were a threat to humanity in general and that the EU is a really good neighbour to have, but it’s fun to look at things from the Machiavellian perspective occasionally.
Eat a bag of dicks. Go look at that beautiful Leningrad skyline out your balcony.
I’d prefer they follow their leader but there’s always tripping to hope for
