Are we pretending this is Marvel thing exclusively and not an ALL superheros thing? Lazy slop memes, aren’t going to stop lazy slop movies. Do better.
…the military doesn’t come off in a good light in any of the movies that isn’t the first Cap, and even then they’re antagonistic by sidelining one of their best chances at winning due to bureaucratlcy.
The latest one is the worst offender ever.
They go and stand in front of a mirror? I don’t get it.
I kind of feel like if a meme image needs an explanation it’s probably failed.
They reflect.
What have I been watching all this time?Ngl i just thought he looked bummed
Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Deadpool & Wolverine were good. Nothing since then has looked interesting.
Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four were both really good. Actually, I thought Ironheart was really good too.
It really feels like every other movie since Endgame has been really good or really bad.
Ant-Man 3, The Marvels, and Captain America 4 were various degrees of not good.
Echo and Secret Invasion weren’t good either (actually, I think overall the shows have had a better track record overall).
I agree. I haven’t seen Thunderbolts yet, but I just saw Fantastic Four last night and thought it was actually really good compared to a lot of the other recent Marvel movies. Even the ones I liked all felt like they had the same script more or less, but this one it seemed like they went for less action and easy jokes and just focused on the characters and the story. I liked it a lot.
I found Deadpool & Wolverene supremely painful. Matter of taste I suppose. Haven’t seen any other dress-up movies in a while.
Haven’t seen any other dress-up movies in a while.
Isn’t every movie a dress-up movie?
Technically, I guess that’s true.
What did you find painful about it? While I dont think it was historic level cinema, I fid find it entertaining.
There is a significant difference between something being entertaining to watch in the moment, and it being good.
I watched D&W in theaters with my boyfriend. Had a deadpool themed margarita. Had an excellent time, highly recommend.
Hours after leaving the theater, I started actually thinking about the movie. The more I thought about it the more I decided that it actually wasn’t very good. At the time, I had a detailed list of complaints. I’ve forgotten the details since then.
The broad strokes though, it’s insulting.
D&W actively disregards and insults established MCU canon. They had a chance to expand the lore, instead they shat on it.
The best moments in the movie could be described as “HEY! HERE’S THAT THING YOU LIKE!!! YOU LIKE THIS RIGHT?!?! LIKE THIS!!!” Which is the most disrespectful kind of reference you can do, as it’s insulting to the media and even more so to the audience.
Ryan Renolds has a writing credit for this movie, and he has demonstrated that he fundamentally does not understand the metaphysics of marvel comics. Therefore, his commentary on the state of the MCU can fuck off. Sure, the later MCU movies had a lot of problems, but I can tell that myself, I have the power of media literacy on my side, so I can tell when the pot is calling the kettle black.
If I were willing to actually put effort into it, I could come up with actual examples to go with my complaints, but I don’t feel like watching the movie again any time soon.
Not OP but personally the plot was a monumental example of wasted potential with regards to the plot. The villain’s motivations being the poorest.
Even then, fight scenes between basically immortal self-healing characters are a snoozefest. Add that to the imo hit-but-mostly-miss humour and you’re just waiting for the credits to roll really.
I honestly think I’d rather watch Eternals, and that was pretty bad too.
Are you going to name something you like so we can shit all over your tastes, or just point at things you hate like a coward? One might say, and I will, that you’re dumb if you go into a movie like Deadpool and Wolverine looking for a cinematic masterpiece rather than fan service and violence.
Lol simmer down, bud. You didn’t make the movie; you just liked it. No need to take it personally
I don’t mind a good bit of fanservice and violence, but that’s also kind of why I felt D&W was a bit disappointing. The fanservice was kinda mediocre as a lot of characters were just “mentioned” rather than properly explored, and as I said violence between unkillable characters is kinda dull. I have enjoyed a lot of the other Marvel movies though, most of them even (and that includes stuff like Age of Ultron and Iron Man 3 that a lot of people seem to like shitting on). Non-Marvel I quite liked the Dungeons & Dragons movie, I thoroughly enjoyed that one. It’s not a cinematic masterpiece or anything, but the characters are likable and have some depth and development, there’s a decent plot going on and there’s enough fanservice for DnD fans to go around.
No need to get so defensive if someone doesn’t like something you like.
Did you like the first 2 Deadpool movies? If so, what was worse about this one?
Different person. But I thought the first two were genuinely good movies.
The third felt like an excuse for cameos and jokes. It was entertaining, but not necessarily good.
It was lazy, it just did the same as before without adding anything new. It felt like watching the first one on repeat, sped up.
Huh, I think that just wrong. The character of Deadpool is still him, which would be strange to change, but I think alot of it was unexplored before and an interesting contribution to the Loki storyverse. Also Hugh Jackman did a great job reprising the role of wolverine.
Deadpool is a meta character, but despite that (or because of it?) I think it’s a fresh take on the state of the MCU each time, taking pot shots at the existing formula from within it.
Imo, the worst shit is the multiverse shit that makes it all meaningless. If they don’t like how they told the story, they will just make up a new version and say multiverse and you are the idiot for saying that it doesn’t make sense in another way because multiverse.
An repetitive story with no meaningful content for the franchise and no interest in consistency.
Multiverse is just the gg ez way to do a reboot with even less effort lol
This is how I feel about comic book stories in general. Due to the nature of the medium, they have to constantly come up with new stories with the same set of characters to keep it fresh…eventually the well runs dry.
It’s an infinite Deux Ex Machina
For me it’s the juvenile plot and vapid dialogue. But sure, the retconning too.
Apparently, the new vision is to use the Multiverse explanation in order to bring all of the characters into one single timeline. So, apparently, Marvel has become quite aware of your issues, as the new studio head feels the same way. They’re doing what they can to address it, FWIW
They’re doing a Battleworld, the comic event where Doom kidnaps Franklin Richards, and the molecule man, in order to temporarily erase the multiverse.
The end of that particular comic storyline justified the end of the Ultimates universe, while allowing Miles Morales to join the main marvel universe.
Nothing else changed. Because the first law of comics is that nothing ever changes. Not really.
Movies on the other hand, have a problem. Actors age out of roles, so you should be changing the world with each movie… Marvel isn’t doing that.
Actors age out of roles, so you should be changing the world with each movie…
Counterpoint: James Bond has been chugging along for sixty years. Some are better than others, but the basic outline is the same for almost every Bond movie, and it’s still a prestige franchise.
justified the end of the Ultimates universe
Ah, I really liked the ultimates universe because it did make a whole new start that I could jump into, compared to the decades of comics earlier. Plus they were pretty free about killing some characters off. I loved cyclops deciding to
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because it felt like the characters had room to grow, fuck up, and change… like they could act in ways that didn’t need to preserve the status quo.
It was a wonderful experiment. And it showed what you can do with tight continuity control… But it was a bit too grimdark. Heroes need to be allowed to act like heroes, even when it’s hard.
The Ultimates universe felt like all the big names were slowly drifting towards evil.
I think my love for it came from the spiderman comic. Peter was great in the ultimate universe (and was the only comic I read through the entirety of). And yeah, grimdark is probably the right fit for it.
I’m trying to remember if Marvel likes the US military. Aren’t they always turning out to be secretly controlled by HYDRA or something? I also seem to recall that Iron Man decided he couldn’t trust them with weapons and invented his suit so that he could do all of his killing personally.
Early on up until the first Avengers they were, but that movie strained the relationship due to how much the DoD wanted to meddle in the production. They didn’t like the helicarriers due to realism, for example. And you can see shit like F-35’s on the flight deck, national guard doing their thing during the invasion, Captain America straight up using an M4, things like that.
After that movie, the influence the DoD had was much more subtle if it was there at all.
After that movie, the influence the DoD had was much more subtle if it was there at all.
Their involvement is blatant. They literally have a near century long intimate relationship with Hollywood as a well established recruitment tactic. It’s hardly a secret.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–entertainment_complex
https://www.military.com/undertheradar/2018/03/22/how-why-defense-department-works-hollywood.html
Damn didn’t realize they were involved in every single film made by Hollywood. Really explains a lot about Finding Nemo
That totally explains why i thought about the military after watching dude, wheres my car?
Not to mention that every single movie has the same plot. But more meta each time
First scene reveals the Villain
No, that’s Columbo.
Wait. Wait. Wait. This one has a black guy as the protagonist. How about a woman. What if they are all alians. Or hear me out. All ultra wealthy?
What if one wore his pants inside out?
I don’t want to watch anything for three hours TBH. 95 minutes is the optimal run time for a film. FITE ME.
I think 2h is optimal. Not too long, but can still fit a proper story with enough time for development.
90 minutes is enough for children/family moviesI was being a bit edgy with 95, it’s basically the minimum. Even in animation, if you have a bit of a complex structure with a plot twist, you end up well over 100.
For example, the Incredibles, with an unorthodox five act structure, clocks in at a very briskly paced 115.
The trouble with superhero movies is that I can just feel myself spacing out during the filler-laden action scenes. Within every 3hr long marvel film is a much better paced 125 minute film just trying to get out.
Children/family movies can also have plenty of story and development. Case in point: Inside Out, runtime 1h 35m.
Inside Out is kinda forced through though. It ought to have been 2 hours.
I don’t feel the same way, but I’m interested in why you think that!
If they actually had to flesh out all the ideas in the movie, it would have been much longer.
It’s the same in most of these animated films. The ideas only touch the surface, and instead of developing the ideas deeper, or allowing the audience to contemplate the ideas before revealing the movie’s take on it, they simply jump around topics and throw more and more sub plots into the film to make it last 90 minutes.
I think they do it to keep the attention of the audience and to embrace as many potential types of people as possible. However, in my opinion it mostly seems like the writers have an attention disorder.
They were worried too much about accidentally including any lesbian subtext. Any more run time and they’d have to make Riley gay.
I make an exception for LotR extended.
I’d rather hammer nails through my dick!
I’d also rather hammer nails through this guy’s dick!
I’m in. I got a hammer and nails already out for a project. Let’s run it.
😂
Then do so to curtail the spread of your heresy to future generations.
You have my hammer.
If your worthy you can have it back.
Yeah, my brain has been rotted by short form media too.
This seems like a good time to mention that fucking Casablanca has a running time of 102 minutes. For most of the history of Hollywood 100-120 minute running times have been the norm.
Gigantic runtimes are a feature of depression era economics, the 1930s and now.
I do personally enjoy a long film if it’s doing something good with the run time. Oppenheimer was a solid one recently, even with it being so long it was still densely-packed and I don’t think it would have been improved by being shortened. That said, I think two hours is roughly my default sweet spot. The further over that you go, the better you’re going to have to be to persuade me. I’m ready to be persuaded but it needs to be something
Commando, the greatest movie ever made, is 90 minutes long.
100%.
Is it Spider-Men or Spider-Mans?
Spiders-Man
Awww
Spider-Mans. Spider-Man is a proper noun so you generally don’t change it and just as pluralization to the end
But semantics have become more fluid and non-binary over the past decade.
We’re trying to be inclusive here, it’s spider-people.
Nerds screeching about marvel is the new /r/athiesm
It’s high time we reintroduce the intermission… in the third dimension.
Brutalist having an intermission was so nice and made me realize how much I’d love more movies to have this. Sadly I don’t think we’ll see this being done more as that little extra time probably cuts into the amount of showings you can do in a day.
I saw Interstellar in a classy New Zealand theater that gave creatively-cooked meals during an intermission. I feel like that would be a well-appreciated change of pace for a lot of people.
Did they just serve 5 types of corn-based foods, y’know, for immersion?
The last one I tried was Thor: love and thunder. I went out of the cinema 25 minutes in, didn’t get my money back. That movie was filled with forced jokes that made no sense.
They really don’t like it when you don’t swoon over the latest new hot trending macguffin.
Grogu is a MacGuffin, not an actual character.
Fight me.
You’re right, but I can still fight you if you want, say we meet at the park near sundown?
I’ll even let you get the first hit in, I’ll be walking around, and you can just run up and punch me.
Perfect, that is so fair. Please do not tell me which park or how to recognize you. It wouldn’t be sporting otherwise!
Cry fucking harder. You people will bitch about anything.
Found the Marvel fan!
Cool post, uncool instance
tbf, you’re on .world
100% intentionally
I’m not surprised
block it
But then who would downvote all of the tankies?
Whoa, a neoliberal opinion no one asked for from piefed.world- that’s expected
