• galloog1@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Okay genius, how do you kill them when they are in tunnels under neighborhoods? You cannot get into them without an explosion, even if present in person and they won’t just sit there either. This is not a war crime and I’m really questioning everyone’s collective intelligence and ability to think through problems instead of reacting to stimulus.

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        11 months ago

        This is literally true.

        Specific protection of medical establishments and units (including hospitals) is the general rule under IHL. Therefore, specific protection to which hospitals are entitled shall not cease unless they are used by a party to the conflict to commit, outside their humanitarian functions, an “act harmful to the enemy”. In case of doubt as to whether medical units of establishments are used to commit an “act harmful to the enemy”, they should be presumed not to be so used.

        Emphasis mine.

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          11 months ago

          Proportionality is another factor you’re ignoring.

          They’re also still required to attempt to limit targeting to avoid civilian casualties and yet they don’t

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            11 months ago

            They do limit targeting. How many strikes are you seeing in the south as compared to the north? That’s a limitation and shows proportionality. You folks may not like it but this is categorically not a war crime.

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                11 months ago

                Correct which is why your entire narrative is false because they never told civilians to go to a specific place. Dig into it. This is exactly what I mean when I call this stuff propaganda. It’s stretching the truth and inviting you to draw your own conclusions from warped facts.

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                    11 months ago

                    I will put it quite simply. You cannot provide an example where the IDF told Gaza civilians to go to a specific place, only places where they should not go.

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        11 months ago

        How do you take out the enemy? Answer the question. Your perspective is not useful when you have no alternative. They cannot access the tunnels without an explosive. Name a full conflict where civilian infrastructure was not hit when taking a city.

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      11 months ago

      You don’t have to shoot missiles indiscriminately into civilian zones. If your enemy is hiding among civilian infrastructure and/or using human shields, you need to change your tactics up to suit. Committing war crimes in order to kill your enemy isn’t how you retain the moral highground.

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        11 months ago

        I’m still waiting on these tactics you are recommending. Alternatives don’t exist so your argument is absolute bullshit. The faster they can get through this, the less overall civilian suffering will occur.

        • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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          11 months ago

          The civilians can’t suffer if they are dead so you’re not wrong but are advocating for war crimes.

          I think I’d rather be wrong.