Virginia Delegate Sam Rasoul, whose family was displaced by Israel, wrote about the ‘evils’ of Zionism, prompting a flurry of attacks from Tim Kaine, Abigail Spanberger, and other party colleagues.
Virginia Delegate Sam Rasoul, whose family was displaced by Israel, wrote about the ‘evils’ of Zionism, prompting a flurry of attacks from Tim Kaine, Abigail Spanberger, and other party colleagues.
I think a couple of you have nailed the crux of the story here. Using Zionist in everyday speech is not something most of us have done much of, because it tended to be in a word-cloud that included other words like “exterminate” and “The Jews” and you know what I’m talking about here so if you’ve lived with that being almost every context you see “Zionist” in, it’s a pretty quick No on further discussion. That’s the disconnect.
What the modern state of Israel is doing is atrocious. If we need to use the word “Zionist” to explain it okay, but I would argue we don’t need to in order to stop this genocide. Also The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is not a great book.
And this “look! Democrats love genocide” shit is rancid. What Democrats wanted was to not be in the fascist hellhole shitslide we are now in. That garbage take was straight outta Moscow and did what it was intended to do, which was keep people from voting Harris and it absolutely did. Now everything is much worse.
I don’t know about your last take, though. It was clear from polling that siding with Israel was not going to be well received and, faced with the most important election not to lose, the Democrats decided that continuing to support the genocide was more important than stopping the slide into a fascist hellscape.
This was a deliberate decision of theirs. They weighed the choices and decided on what we have now. They are not on your side.
It was, and once again worthless Democratic consultants have fucked us all. It absolutely was the wrong election strategy.
But if the only thing people see is the top layer, they are intentionally being ignorant. Support for Israel - or Ukraine, or the UK or any foreign country isn’t supposed to work like DOGE; Completely destroyed in days, leaving only acrimony, mistrust, and a very uncertain, if inevitable, future. That’s what people are demanding and it’s as incompetent as anything trump burps up fifty times a day.
Something like “They are not on your side” is some Xitter facebook garbage. The world doesn’t work like that despite how much Musk wishes it did, or how much twenty-year olds believe it does. If Democrats are “not on your side” you’re either a republiQan, a clueless fascist supporter, or a “leftist” with zero representation in any office and zero chances for any change in the next decade.
The Left (all liberal flavors) has about one year left to get its shit together. All I see right now is “fuck the one party we could be in for change. Because (it really doesn’t matter - to the billionaires - why) reasons.” That’s not just self-defeating, it’s once again very preventable and only perpetrated by ignorance. Get in there.
Well, I think I see the problem. You seem to think that the Democrats are a leftist party. They are a right-wing party that cosplays as leftist. Their goal is to soak up all of the actual lefitst votes, so that we don’t get actual leftist candidates.
Democrats are not on my side as long as they continue to:
These would all be obvious wins for the Democrats, but they are clearly more interested in continuing the status-quo, than supporting what the voters want.
Wow that sounds like it should really mean something.
What, uh, what does it mean? I mean, I know “cosplay” but how does a right-wing party “cosplay” as a left-wing party? Can that even be a thing? No.
Here, let me help. On the “left” side of the spectrum are political goals. Let’s pretend like we both know what those are and we agree with them, okay? This is just a thought exercise. Okay, now that we know what the left’s goals are, let’s see if there’s any examples in history to suggest those goals were being worked towards. Ok?
Now, let’s say YES, there were examples in history of left-wing goals being worked towards, in the form of legislation, in the form of votes in chambers, and in the form of political public speech. It doesn’t matter what the examples are - you can make them up if you prefer - but this next step requires that we actually have examples to point to.
If you want to say NO, there are no examples of left-wing goals being worked towards then we can just end here. That’s sad.
BUT, good news! We’ve hypothetically agreed that some-if-not-all left-wing goals have been worked towards at some point. Now - which party did that work? Take your time.
If you made up examples, you’ve probably got some made up parties in there too, which - hooray for imagination. However, if you can possibly think of any left-wing goals that were worked towards in real life, you will be very likely limited to two parties. So. Which party works towards the left-wing goals?
Is the anarchists? Of course! But they’re not elected (they’re anarchists, it doesn’t really work for them.) Is it the socialists? Yes! But not so much in official capacity. More like unofficial good works, right? Is it the Greens? HA! oh hail no. No, it is not the greens.
I know that you know I can find those examples. And I know that you know what at least some of them are, so I’m going to be so bold as to assume that point is granted. Now, you’ve got quite a crime spree for this same party, namely the bombing and the raping and the genociding and the fascisting and the biting and the kicking and so on, Mmwh’ay. I’d like you to consider that none of those things are left wing goals being worked towards. And the people who may be accused of such things, are at best outliers like Sinema and Manchin, or at worst are part of a cultural trend towards doing what the American public says it wants done which is wrong.
Either way, Next November, you’ll have a choice to make. And once again that choice is the same as it was last November.
I’d like to remind you that last November didn’t work out for us.
Edit: unless the socialists and / or other ists actually run a candidate! Boy wouldn’t that be something to see.