seems like this should go to court - make tesla prove these claims, and explain how they’re allowed to stifle both free speech and parody.
because this is absolute bullshit
Lol, Cybercucks getting what they deserve. Don’t drive a swasticar if you don’t want consequences. It was Tesla, this time. Next time, it could just be a citizen looking to enact a bit of justice.
Inb4 douchebags defending their Tesla because they bought it “before Elon was crazy”. Your lack of awareness does not excuse your bad choices. Sell your Tesla.
Selling your Tesla is an odd take. To whom are condoning the purchase of a Tesla?
To some asshole who will still buy a Tesla, duh
Hey maybe we shouldn’t have a world where car companies can remotely deactivate your vehicle if you say mean things about them?
If car companies can’t remotely deactivate your vehicle, how will they be able to extort you and harass you and sell you out to the police?
This has been standard in every car made after 2003
If your car is newer than that, the police can request the car company disable your engine.
It’s fucked up and evil, but it isn’t new, just the first time it’s been blatantly abused
You might be off by a couple of years there. And even if you aren’t, the 3G network those cars would’ve relied on for communications has been shut down so remotely doing anything to your 2004 car today would be impossible.
I think you’re off by a decade there. My 2010 car has no mobile connectivity.
Cars having satellite gps has been standard for most manufacturers since the early 2000s
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_navigation_system
My guy doesn’t know anything about how GPS works
Not suitable for this.
GPS is a purely one-way method, with the satellites transmitting only their position and a timecode, leaving the receiver to do the triangulation. And if they did send any sort of custom data packets over that method, it would just confuse the crap out of every other receiver across most of the world, causing potential device crashes, drawing attention from ham operators worldwide…
And also massively pissing off the US military. Turns out a lot of their equipment and munitions make use of GPS and INS, so fucking with those satellites is a no-go.
Wrong, that didn’t start until like 2015 or later even.
These guys are tender.
We talk trash on european cars since ever. Brands and models alike. Nobody cares. And getting a car that was paid for blocked because someone feels the brand is being hurt would trigger a shit storm.
When are you guys going to push Tesla to the bin?
I don’t think the rapper was even criticizing them. I think he was literally singing their praises.
Cybertruck’s basically are in the bin. They have recalled them so many times and no longer have a sales campaign for them. Sure some get sold, but I bet fElon is giving a lot of them away to friends or sold under govt contract.
The problem is that doesn’t really change stonk value. Tesla sells dreams and lies… cars just happen to be a useful byproduct.
Verge reported there are signs the video may be fix and Tesla posted to confirm that it was indeed fake.
https://www.theverge.com/tesla/757594/tesla-cybertruck-deactivated-viral-video-fake
Tesla’s reply: “This is fake – that’s not our screen. Tesla does NOT disable vehicles remotely.”
They do though, so thats a total lie. Try getting into your car that you paid for firmware, see if tesla locks you down.
I’ll note none of my old cars have this problem. Don’t buy new cars people.
Normally I would care that it’s a fake story but in this case I don’t mind spreading it. That guy needs to pay for what he has done to our country.
And I am ready to look the other way, because why should I care about Musk when he hates me? There are other priorities.
Actually, I will begin by not even fact-checking the original post. That’s right. I will vibe-comment (I hope I’m using this at least somewhat right. I’m very old in internet years, I’m so sorry).
The worst part is, I don’t think you’re even joking
You know I might be just crazy enough to have even upvoted the original post.
Seems unfair for only one side to have weaponized fake news
Imagine:
You have parking lots full of your cars that can’t sell because your CEO is basically in the top 5 of horrible humans.
You have horror stories about kids burning alive in the cars because they couldn’t open the doors.
You have a Rapper, with social following, in Detroit, Motor City, with a 100k model of your car who makes a song about how you’re fucking up, and you shut down his 100k car and send a c&d.
Could you imagine a PR department being this bad at its job?
He could make a music video burning the thing to the ground and make his money back.
That’s strange you don’t think the PR department takes its marching orders from their furher directly
I thought Tesla fired their PR department?
No they just replaced it with a keyboard in a room full of cats with grok interpreting the random input.
They would never care for a room of cats. They just put the keyboard under the front door mat.
I’m sure somebody is taking responsibility for it. You can’t do stupid shit and not have somebody else to fire.
Anyone who buys a fucking motor vehicle that comes with Terms and Conditions agreement, let alone one that can be spontaneously and remotely turned off… you’re a fucking moron. And Tesla needs to be sued into oblivion. That shit should NOT be legal.
Anyone who buys a fucking motor vehicle that comes with Terms and Conditions agreement
Increasingly looking like “all of them”.
Buy old and give your restoration shops less money than you’d spend on a new car, and have a dependable, easy to repair, non government controllable vehicle. Thats what i do.
Won’t catch me signing one, I promise you that.
LOL registered previously in your name OR in your possession…
So Tesla doesn’t even give a shit if the guy still owns the vehicle, they deactivated it because he owned it at one point in time.
He could have sold it to some poor fuck who now has a bricked Cyber truck and Tesla don’t give a fuck.
I thought it was forbidden by tesla to resell these things?
and now you know why
They tried that with the Founders Series but they walked back after they found out sales were slow.
Clippy moment 📎💬
Unacceptable. It should be illegal to even build the capability to brick someone else’s property
This is a major feature of nearly all cars now. Dealerships can remotely track and disable cars when people fall behind on their payments. That’s because so many people fall behind on payments nowadays, they need easy mechanisms for dealing with it. America is cooked.
Got to love it. My crappy car doesn’t even have Bluetooth, but it does have a CD auto changer. Can’t brick my car.
same with the F-35s sold to other countries. and those cost a lot more than even a cybertruck. imagine it being disabled mid-flight. probably entirely possible.
I mean, that’s a tiny bit different. That’s something you want to be sure will never end up aiding a terrorist attack against you.
Cybertrucks only kill people accidentally.
as far as I know (which is not a whole lot) terrorists only fly commercial planes. though I’m sure you can probably find the F-35 Handbook on the War Thunder forums.
That’s the great thing: the government then get to decide who or what a terrorist is! - including oil rich middle East countries
Im pretty sure usaf flies f-35
So here’s the neat part! They just make it so that you technically are renting the car and so they can brick it up all they want since technically they own the vehicle!
that’s not the case here though
They’ll pull the same crap they do with digital content you “buy.” Technically you’re just buying a license to use the vehicle, not actually buying the vehicle itself.
I don’t disagree, but in this case that is not true, because that is not what the terms and conditions say.
This should indocate to everyone that you cannot rely on any car to work that has this capability.
You say that, but your avatar is not Clippy.
Oi! Don’t bring clippy into this! He was an innocent clip from a better era! More like a [email protected] moment 👎🖕!!
Edit: lol my poor clippy just getting hated on
I agree. I was referring to Louis Rossmann’s Clippy campaign that we should not accept this as consumers but we want technology to help us, like Clippy
Edit: let’s not mass downvote for an innocent misunderstanding, even if they worded it a bit strongly. C’mon now
Those monsters can’t downvite clippy, he’s being held captive against his will.
Honestly, I kinda want to make a clippy bot, hook it into a self hosted LLM and have it roleplay as clippy trapped by Microsoft. It would be a hoot for 30 minutes or so.
A company being able to deactivate your purchased property is absolutely dystopian
Not absolutely, because a company being able to deactivate your purchased property for ulterior reasons is more dystopian.
I also suspect the rapper wasn’t exactly praising the cybertruck, so that would add “for
insultingmisrepresenting? a company”. That’s even more dystopian.You don’t have to suspect anything, watch the video. He’s hyping the Cybertruck, hyping, “I’m RICH BEEYOTCH!” This is Tesla trying to distance themselves from that message.
While that song and message are shit, so is Tesla.
This is peak face eating leopards content all around.
Also I wonder if a white rapper singing the same song would have had his shit-pyramid disabled as fast.
Tesla factories have had a racism problem for years.
I have have had it up to here with people calling Elon a racist Nazi with a mangled penis.
Tell that to the gaming industry
I’m just glad they got a power hungry, austistic lunatic in charge now, so everyone can see this is absolutely the end game, before this becomes normalized and people like me get called retarded for not wanting a car that can be remote deactivated.
Autism doesn’t make someone an asshole. Let’s not normalise hatred of neurodivergence
Thank you for calling this out. Autistic should not be derogatory!
The user also dropped the R slur. The “people like me” part stands out to me as a little suspect as well.
I think his point is that Musk is trying to normalize calling people that word on Twitter. I didn’t get the impression the user was in support of using that word.
Don’t worry about vague stuff, who cares what they think people like them are - just tell them to blow it out their ass for using a slur.
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any examples of real insults ?
“Lame.” Now THERE is a REAL insult. What’s the matter? Can’t walk? Ha! Lame. Sit down, lameboi.
I see no difference between calling him autistic and calling him narcissistic, except that one of those two mental disorders is one he claims to have a diagnosis for. Let’s fry the bigger fish first and then circle back to autism.
It doesn’t but a neurodivergent person can absolutely be an arsehole.
Its not a magic label that makes everything “quirky” and “eccentric”.
Nobody said that. They were simply correcting the misconception that autism is bad.
And i was correcting the misconception that just because someone is neurodivergent doesn’t make them immune to being an arsehole.
Neurodivergent people are people, with all that entails.
Nobody said that.
Nobody said autism is bad (in the chain im replying to), but here we are.
Two statements that never happened with two corrections that aren’t needed apparently.
Land of the free
Whoever told you that is your enemy
I didn’t know I had so many elementary school teacher enemies in the 80’s. Scans though…
https://youtu.be/PicBV-gyb4U well now you know
Time for a sequel to “United Breaks Guitars.”
“Tesla bricked me truuuk.”
Goddamn I love Jesse Welles.
“CEOs come and go, and one just went”
Cracks me up
He’s moved in a more folk-ish direction the past couple of years but there’s a video on YouTube of his three-piece doing a very grunge cover of Father John Misty’s Hollywood Cemetery Sings that is IMO legit better than the original
I became a fan after the folk move, but I was genuinely surprised that he was closer to my age than I had realized. I thought he was in his early 20s.
Jesse is fuckin great
This is a good case to battle the shit out of Tesla in court and set a landmark verdict on the “you buy but don’t own” abuse.
Usually this would however require that courts are capable of reaching proper verdicts, that the government actually cared about the people, that consumer protection agencies had any footing etc. Alas, all of them are infiltrated by the big capital corporations.
Also, how is it protected from a song? Satire and parody are fair game.
or his next hit song: burn down the dealerships /s
I mean, maybe it could work right now, considering how elmo and dump had a falling out. People might be able to leverage dumps pettiness to get a verdict on something like this. Now would be the time to try, though.
I think this actually has a chance, but only because it affects millionaires. in any case the outcome would be very positive as it would apply elsewhere.
“Free speech absolutist”
Mr “freedom of speech absolutionist” hard at work I see
