• TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What is misleading? It clearly states:

    But they do not necessarily amount to the specific violation of using “human shields” under international humanitarian law, which entails “using the presence (or movements) of civilians or other protected persons to render certain points or areas (or military forces) immune from military operations.”

    If it met the criteria for a “human shield,” that would have been stated. This has nothing to do with bad faith. Hamas does not use human shields, according to Amnesty International. Your argument isn’t with me, it’s with them. Are they operating in bad faith? Barring an independent investigation to prove otherwise, this is what their investigation found.

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      1 year ago

      What’s misleading is that they are only referring to some of the alleged behavior not qualifying, not all of the alleged behavior.

      Using an inhabited hospital as a military HQ where you are conducting interrogations and launching missiles from absolutely meets “using the presence of civilians or protected persons to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.”

      Firing rockets a block away from an apartment building or storing munitions in an abandoned school doesn’t. And those are the kind of allegations that the report explicitly called out before the part you are quoting (storing munitions in civilian buildings or firing from the vicinity of).

      Hamas does not use human shields, according to Amnesty International.

      Hahaha, that’s not at all what the report says anywhere. It’s only saying that some of the behavior that was alleged as using human shields doesn’t qualify as that designation.

      Literally taking hostages and having them nearby military operations is the textbook definition as I mentioned previously. Are you saying Hamas didn’t do that recently?

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        1 year ago

        This is circular. That’s not what their investigation found. Am I to take the opinion of kromem on Lemmy, or Amnesty International? Sorry, I’m gonna take the opinion of Amnesty every time.

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          1 year ago

          Then you might want to actually read the whole thing and not only the parts you mistakenly think agree with you.

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            1 year ago

            I did read the whole thing. I agree Hamas has committed multiple war crimes,

            But they do not necessarily amount to the specific violation of using “human shields” under international humanitarian law, which entails “using the presence (or movements) of civilians or other protected persons to render certain points or areas (or military forces) immune from military operations.”

            Just because you don’t like their findings doesn’t make their findings mistaken. You lost, you’ll get over it.

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              using the presence of civilians or other protected persons to render certain points or areas immune from military operations

              Exactly. Read it again.

              Now tell me how using an inhabited hospital as a military base and to launch attacks from doesn’t meet that criteria?

              Or how taking hostages and co-locating them with military operations doesn’t.