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The Department of Homeland Security is looking to boost its deployment of the military on the streets of the U.S. in order to help carry out Donald Trump’s immigration policies, according to a leaked memo written by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s brother.

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      Dude if they do that, conservatives will start bullying people for NOT being pedophiles.

      By which I mean

      Trump is god almighty -> What Trump does is holy -> Trump is a pedophile -> Everyone must fuck kids or otherwise they’re the Antichrist and hate children.

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        Give children the love they deserve! Nothing says loving your child like molestation and rape!

        /s for anyone that needs clarity

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          Unsarcastically, more and more scholars are recognizing that in the Greek original texts of the New Testament, the apostles seem to range in age from newly pubescent (John) up to maybe 18-19 in the case of Peter. To say nothing of the naked child Jesus was caught with in the garden of Gethsemane (Mark 14:51-52) - the whole reason they crucified him under laws reserved for child traffickers.

          Important to remember that Jesus spoke Greek and lived in the context of Greco-Roman culture, with the widespread prevalence of pederasty, eunuchs, drug use etc. that came with it.

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              Mark 14:48 has Jesus asking the soldiers why they’re attacking him with heavy weaponry as if he were a lēstēs, or human trafficker, the same word is used by Julius Caesar to describe the people who captured and ransomed him, so the general translation of lēstēs as robber or brigand is insufficient, they are human traffickers, often the pederastic type. Caesar also started the tradition of crucifying this particular type of criminal.

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                Ugh, definitely one of those passages where the translation matters. Several versions of the Bible are no where near suggesting the soldiers are attacking him, nor using “lēstēs”. Granted the Bible has been heavily edited over the centuries, and I cannot read the original.

                Thank you for pointing out the section.

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              To address the passage you mentioned, its Mark 14:64 that mentions blasphemy and that could be (I’ve heard it explained this way) from Jesus’ appropriation of earlier Greek Bacchus/Aphrodite cult practices, with Jesus specifically taking over the role played by Aphrodite.

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      Wish I had your optimism. It takes work to pull the fucking grubby mitts of authoritarians out of the machine, it doesn’t always happen automatically.

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        The bigger issue is that even if this does collapse quickly, the damage is largely done. Who knows how much data and accumulated years of knowledge are gone, to say nothing of all the agencies and policies that are just burnt to the ground. It took DECADES to get the EPA to even a level that was largely useful. Even if we come out the other side of this, it’ll be in a radically changed form, possibly not even as the United States. I can very easily see a power vacuum and federal collapse from the fact that the federal government, aside from the actual levers of power like the judiciary and the military, is just a skeleton now.

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          An actually competent government could get the EPA kicking ass, fast. It’s absolutely doable. The same group that’s motivated enough to fix shit would be likely to keep going and undo damage as fast or faster than it was done.

          Talk about plans and options everybody.

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          Frankly I could see far worse than federal collapse, as in I wouldn’t be surprised if some areas devolved into city states at best. The economy is rat fucked to the point where anything coming out the other side that isn’t already exceptionally robust is unlikely, which basically is a list of the Western states, North East, and the Mid West Ohio not withstanding.

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              I feel like they’re missing the fact that most of them will be wholly irrelevant if USD collapses remember most of them hold their wealth in stocks and the ones who don’t have no practical way of enforcing their power. They aren’t the patricians of the late Western Roman empire who were both oligarchs and generals with loyal house troops, they are closer to the Italian city state patricians chucking around mercenaries and backstabbing.

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                They own enough other shit to survive a dollar collapse, they buy up everything they want on the cheap.

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                  Yeah how’d that work for the Romans in the East when the Visigoths, Franks, and Ostrogoths ripped apart the West and the Easts investments collapsed. You are assuming that American society holds up in any practical way, I don’t think it will I think the USD will be worth only as much as it’s good for toilet paper. The US economy is too weak as a whole to support itself if it faulters anytime soon, everything is top down and much like a top heavy ship itll flip and sink.

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        Plus the people who are suppose to protect us the people only want to protect the lesser majority that likes to hate, because the protectors are haters also.

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      There’s still a good chance he chickens out and holds actual elections this mid season and in 3 1/2 years.

      We’ll find out either way.

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        Even if everything changes Democrats are very good at doing nothing. Not to mention the amount of damage already done and the decades it would take to fix it.

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        Not sure they’ll matter. The only party viably able to unseat some of the Republicans right now is shit on by the right, left, and center daily. Meaning the odds that people will show up in droves during a midterm to vote for them is minimal. And when the Republicans hold the Senate, they’ll get Roberts, Thomas, and Alito to retire and Trump to replace them with far right justices who owe their lifelong cushy jobs to those Republicans. So we’ll have ~16 years of Republican support in the Judicial branch all but guaranteed. When 33% of the government is owned by a party, all they have to do is secure 1 half on Congress and they can prevent the country from moving left.

        The last administration “led” with 50% majority control of the government. This one leads with 100% majority control. It won’t be easy to come back from.

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          And its being shit on because the repubs and their russian bot farms are pushing the narrative. We need to still vote and not give in.

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            And because democrats still vote with republicans to provide more weapons to the genocidal state if isnotreal, when they could simply use the opposition to at least look like they’d fight for what is right, even if they can’t change it. But they wouldn’t even drop their Zionist buddies for the show.

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              So you refused to stop this already and now that the wheels are coming off your takeaway is to double-down that Democrats bad because “if isnotreal”.

              Cool.

              Look I don’t know what platform you’re avoiding being banned from by not saying “Israel” but this and your “Zionist buddies” language plus the Democrats-suck-lets-help-trump-some-more tells me all I need to know. Unless of course you have some plan that’s more than “shit on the Democrats”. Do you?

              Yeah. That much is obvious.

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                I am calling it Inotreal because isREAL suggests that they have legitimate claim there. Those are white people colonizing Palestine.

                To your second point, I didn’t do anything to stop that, because I am not american. But my point is that as long as there is no difference in policy between democrats and republicans, why should people care who wins? And yes, I understand that for you the stock market or relationships to other countries (that did now suffer) might be the most important, but some americans have family in the middle east, and to them the most important topic is the genocide in Palestine. If democrats refuse to provide an alternative on that matter, you’ll never get those people to vote for them.

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    These morons are trying to do an authoritarian takeover and will botch the hell out of it but doesn’t negate the fact that they are trying.

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    The younger Hegseth was a podcast producer and social media poster for a conservative think-tank before his brother’s rise from the Fox & Friends Weekend couch to being in charge of the world’s most powerful military.

    The USA is looking like a real tin-pot dictatorship these days.

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    Good thing I have trimmed down my holdings on American stocks.

    I hope time proves me wrong, but USA having a violent turmoil is coming.

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      Not going to happen. The elite have the population by the short and curlies. Nobody wants to do anything cause they’ll loose their health care.

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        Most of them already don’t have health care. People won’t do anything because they want to avoid the concentration camps.

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      Sure, but while they’re on these streets, they might as well ensure there’s no illegal immigrants attempting to vote in the midterms. Anybody brown looking in line to vote will need to come to the station for questioning first.

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    “Due to the sensitive nature of the meeting, minimal written policy or background information can be provided in this briefing memo,” the memo says.

    Asked for clarification of the memo’s intentions, DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughin declined comment. The New Republic obtained it on the condition that we refrain from posting the original document, so we posted much of the text of it here. We omitted some logistical and biographical details.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/198708/trump-military-anti-immigration-dhs-leaked-memo

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    We didn’t need a leak to know this, but I guess it’s nice to have confirmation. It was clear from the start that this was part of the plan.