A user on lemmy.world/c/aboringdystopia stated that Jews should be ashamed of themselves for the actions of Israel.
I rhetorically responded “Why?” and reported the antisemitic comment.
Reporting them was deemed “Trolling” by the moderator, who believes there is nothing wrong with shaming all Jews for the actions of Israel because some Jews state they are ashamed of it themselves.
I explained the moderator why the comment was antisemitic. In a twist of events, they then permabanned me, deleted all my posts from the comunity and told me I would feel more at home at .ml.
This is not what he said at all though? He said HE would be ashamed to be Jewish. Unless you missed some other screenshots?
It is the only message which can be inferred from the comment.
The user does not say they are Jewish and ashamed. They say they would be ashamed if they were Jewish. Ergo Jewish people should feel shame for it. The way the message is written in a “passive” form does not change its meaning.
If you have an alternative explanation I would love to hear it.
So you haven’t missed anything, you are just lying, yes?
His comment is not antisemitic.
During crusades I would be ashamed to be a Christian. Does not make me anti-Christian .
During Holocaust I would be ashamed to be German. Does not make me anti-German.
You falsely accused someone of racism and insisted on your false report. Now you came here and lied again - you falsely claimed they said something they never did and you implied their intention without any evidence of such.
YDI
“No, you don’t understand, somebody has been mean to me and I’m a JEW! Do you understand?? Even tho my religion is been hijacked by extreme fascism 80 years ago and now is carrying out the most disgusting and horrendous war crime in history, I can’t be ashamed of being part of this group? How dare you?!” /s
You would be allowed to state those opinions if you were Christian during the Crusade of German during the Holocaust.
The user does not claim to hold the religion or race of Judaism and is simply using it as way to say Jews should be ashamed of it.
What they could say it “I would be ashamed to be a Zionist” but they choose to use the term Jew instead of Zionist. You too are currently conflating Zionism and Judaism.
No. I am neither Christian nor German and I would be ashamed if I was during crusades/Holocaust.
No. He is saying HE would be ashamed. He doesn’t imply others should be ashamed. Stop making stuff up.
You asked a question and I already answered, YDI.
Now, disengage - I do not wish to continue any conversation with you as you lied in your initial post and you are clearly arguing in bad faith.
Why should he feel shame “if he were a Jew”? Are you saying all Jews are responsible for the actions of Israel?
I would be very ashamed of myself if I were u/FelixCress.
Where do you see Felix (or the poster you refer to) claim that all Jews are responsible for the actions of Israel?
I think you dug yourself in a hole with a reflexive, uncritical accusation of anti-Semitism.
Although to be fair that seems to the primarily MO of a large portion of individuals/institutions that bring up anti-Semitism.
[Israel’s Basic Law of 2018]
I don’t see the word “Zionist” there. I see the word “Jewish”. The actions of Israel are therefore by law taken in the name of all Jewish people. And if OP were Jewish, they’d be ashamed of it, apparently. They don’t offer advice or instruction as to what other people should feel about it.
Maybe you should complain to the Israeli government for conflating Zionism and Judaism, if that’s your issue with the statement.
Gee, I wonder where you got that from https://lemmy.ml/post/33948292/20179882
There’s a lot of people here willing to conflate Judaism and Zionism here.
Yeah what the literal fuck is this comment chain? Wtf is up with people saying “go back to ml” when told “israel doesn’t represent all jews, that’s antisemetic”