• plyth@feddit.org
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      19 hours ago

      All that coal was created from trees, which are younger than sharks. Nature wasn’t burning then, will not be burning soon. Nature will survive, it’s the industrial farming that will be difficult.

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        19 hours ago

        I thought so too but with the warming trends we are experiencing at unprecedented rates the planet does not have time to adapt as well. We are now looking at a possible Venus scenario if this warming continues at this rate. If we look closely we are still increasing our load on the planet and thus increasing the speed of the cycle. Meaning all flora would not have the thousands of years to adapt to the warming as it has previously in earth’s history.

        We may just kill every live thing on the entire planet because of our greed.

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          19 hours ago

          There are always algues and fish unless we go out of our way and poison the ocean.

          But I can’t imagine that no plant will adapt or is already adapted. Some palm trees, some weed will survive.

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            18 hours ago

            unless we go out of our way and poison the ocean

            We don’t really have to do anything extra. The CO2 alone is already acidifying the ocean in addition to the temperature increases that also kill things.

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              16 hours ago

              Nothing that can’t have been before, when all the coal that is still in the ground was free CO2.

              Downvoters, is this wrong? I need to know. Please correct me.

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                17 hours ago

                Well yeah sure. And the entire Earth could be vaporized and the rest of the universe wouldn’t be affected at all. It’s all about what context and scope we want to discuss.

                Most of the CO2 in coal was trapped 300 million years ago. I am going to assume without further research that we as a civilization would absolutely not like to return to the atmosphere composition of 300,000,000 BCE.

                I know. Cry me a river as you take yourselves out, right? If we take most of the biosphere with us though, that’s even more tragic on top of everything.

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                  17 hours ago

                  it’s the industrial farming that will be difficult.

                  No, we don’t want that. Difficult was an understatement. It’s nature that will survive, not us.

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                    16 hours ago

                    It’s nature that will survive, not us.

                    This is a good thing to point out, because we create many of our own problems by trying to pretend that humanity is a separate and distinct thing from nature.

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            16 hours ago

            We’re doing that regularly now.

            There are always algues and fish unless we go out of our way and poison the ocean.

            You mean like the Pacific garbage patch? Or the numerous “spills” and effluent pipes that feed directly into the ocean? Perhaps the excessive overfishing or whaling or shark finning? Ocean drilling? Deep water mining? I think we’ve already got that killing the oceans thing managed.

            There is of course always a chance something will survive.

            Edit: like this fucking horse tail I’m fighting in my garden that’s been around for millennia. Dinosaurs walked on that shit. Makes a great addition to fertilizer but God damn already…