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    You know what the problem with your definition of forced here is? You think it means having to face any consequences at all. That’s not what forced means. Just having to face consequences doesn’t mean you were forced to do something. Consequences are the result of free will. The result of making your own decisions. It’s naive and childish to think that you should never face consequences for anything you do. Every decision you make has consequences, no one’s forcing you to face them you’re choosing to face them. It’s part of the decision. Don’t want to take the vaccine you lose your job. No one forced you to make that choice you chose to make that choice. Consequences are part of choice.

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      And since when is losing your means to make a living a valid consequence for refusing a vaccine? The courts have said, in most cases, that it was overreach and shouldnt have happened. Those weren’t reasonable consequences for non compliance, especially when it was accompanied by harassment and derision, some of it by our own PM. Stop drinking the koolaid.

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        Well if that choice is so bad for you then maybe don’t make it. That’s how choices work. I can choose to inject myself with bleach right now, I’d probably die, so I’m not going to make that choice. No one’s forcing me not to make that choice no one can stop me. That’s called consequence. It is beyond childish to think you should never face consequences for your choices. That’s not the same as being forced.

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          If you are given options its a choice like ‘hey we value your THIRTY YEARS of service so you can work on a different unit for now, or you can take an unpaid leave, or you can do administrative work at home til the epidemic subsides’ THAT would be a choice.

          If its ‘You have to get the vaccine or we’ll fire you’, thats not a consequence, thats force’ She was most definitely FORCED to resign.

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            What an absurd life you must live. I just imagine you walking around all day going yeah my work forces me to wear pants. By coming to work naked they’ll fire me so they’re forcing me to not be naked. Like that is your mindset here. Anytime any consequences happen you believe you’re being forced to do something. It’s absurd.

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              Yeah wearing pants is exactly the same as taking a shot that MAY protect you from covid (It didnt. I still got covid, so did three people in my family who were also vaccinated) or it may actually make you sicker.

              Which is why the gov has accepted admissions from 2700 Canadians who were damaged by the vaccine and have already paid out 18 million in damages to them with more to come. https://vaccineinjurysupport.ca/en/program-statistics

              So yeah, thats exactly like wearing pants to work.