The screenshot does not support your title afaict
It does. Read it again.
I did, three times. Please explain for my smooth brain.
AOC says people who voted for MTG’s amendement are Neo Nazis. Now read the post title.
With only this screenshot, i do not see her saying that. I think context is missing which is my whole initial point 🤷♂️ you may be right, idk, but what you’ve posted doesnt say this.
Anyway, better things to do with my day
The context of AOC voting against other progressives? The rest is simply just a screenshot.
The screenshot is correcting your confusion but you’re ignoring it. The screenshot is of the bill, not the amendment. She’s showing you proof she voted no against the greater bill. Pretending the amendment is the bill is disingenuous.
AOC is disingenuously showing an entirely different vote than the one in question.
I read this as her calling those trying to paint her as supporting the Israeli military as “neo nazis”.
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These are her words. Get out of here with your lies.
people’s support for aoc despite her actions and words has become a depressing reminder of how little americans pay attention the machinations of our government and i think it because it’s labeled as politics.
it’s so much worse than bernie because he made me believe that all this shit was happening because the information that could educate people to make information decisions required intention and action instead of being passively spoonfed by the main stream media, but now seeing that that the information is freely available at everyone’s fingertips online like aoc’s responses has made me realize that everyone doubles down on their ignorance like maga does.
Most of them only care the part of the progressive movement which affects them. The 15 dollar minimum wage, LGBT movement, free healthcare, or whatever else drives them to it.
Brown children getting burned alive does not affect them. So they defend it.
i’ve heard this before and always felt like it was a cynical take; but it’s getting harder and harder to regard it as nothing more than cynicism as i keep seeing examples like aoc.
Which is just as bad
I disagree. It would be far worse for her to bring her colleagues down than to call out misinformation from who she perceives to be bad actors.
I think calling anti-genocide people neo-nazis is just as bad
Anti genocide people and people being angry at her on twitter are two different groups. There is overlap, but they are not the same group and not the same subject for this conversation.
No they are not
She is talking about MTG’s bill specifically.
It was an amendment that was never going to pass, not a bill. It’s important to know and recognize the difference. An amendment is useless if it doesn’t get added to the bill and voting for or against an amendment is different than voting for or against the bill.
It’s like arguing over what goes in a shopping cart at a store where you’re not going to buy anything anyway.
AOC clarified she believes that Israel should get those free missiles. Stop strawmanning.
You’re misusing the term straw man. A straw man is when you’re arguing against something someone else has not asserted, pretending that it’s actually what they said. You have actually said she has voted to fund genocide when she actually voted against said funding and spoken out directly against genocide. You have intentionally chosen to ignore her actual actions and her words that contradict the narrative you’re pushing. You are pushing a straw man, ironically enough.
A statement that agrees she didn’t fund genocide, contrary to your false claims.
Providing any aid to Israel as they carry out a genocide with U.S. support is completely unacceptable. This is even more true of military aid of any kind. Any funds that go to Israel assist this brutal genocide. Any support for Israel legitimizes its eliminationist campaign against the Palestinian people. The fact that Representative Ocasio-Cortez acknowledges that Israel is carrying out this genocide makes her support for military aid all the more disappointing and incongruous.
Apparently, NOT saying something means you said it.
Yes. Implying that you didn’t vote for something because only Neo Nazis would do that, does mean saying that all progressives who voted for it are Neo Nazis.
So if a Black person votes for something, all who vote for it are Black?
AOC says that progressives (including those who voted for the amendment) are welcoming Neo Nazis this is very clear cut.
Wut??
AOC is saying she didn’t vote for the bill because it was a bill by/for Neo-Nazis. But Omar, Tlaib, etc. voted in favor of it. Therefore, she’s saying those people are Neo-Nazis.
It’s really simple, there’s no need to bring in a different analogy
The vote being referenced was a doomed amendment vote by MTG (who stated she was upset about a Catholic church getting hit, not expressing any concern for Palestinians), and specifically not referencing the military funding bill itself. AOC, and all the other people mentioned here, voted against the actual bill itself. AOC literally voted against funding Israel.
When maga says Dems are pedos, if they don’t specifically except Trump, Gabbard, RFKjr, then they’re pedos…or did they used to be, but not now?
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“Have you stopped hitting your wife yet?”
What is more likely, that MTG actually wanted to stop the genocide, or that she wrote a bill designed to cause chaos?
MTG knew it was politically popular to oppose Israel. AOC would rather lose voters than oppose Israel.
AOC literally voted against the bill. She literally voted against funding Israel. She literally said she opposes genocide and has called Israel out for it.
Again, that’s the amendment, not the bill. The bill funded Israel. AOC voted against the bill. AOC voted against funding Israel.
The criticism AOC is getting is about the amendement, not the bill. Nobody is criticizing her for the bill. AOC is making a bad faith strawman when talking about the bill.
No, people criticizing her over the amendment and falsely claiming she voted for funding Israel’s genocide are making a bad faith argument. Voting for or against the amendment was meaningless. It was never going to pass. It was introduced by MTG as a stunt. Not going along with a stunt by a crazy racist conspiracy theorist is nowhere near the same as supporting genocide or funding it.
The bill is what matters. Ignoring the greater context is acting in bad faith. Ignoring the effective result is acting in bad faith. And pounding this issue only helps get people to not vote for the more left-leaning candidates. It’s a really weird fight for anyone claiming to be a progressive.
This strawman wouldn’t even make sense if AOCIA didn’t already debunk it herself. She explicitly wants to spend American taxpayer money for Israeli weapons
Does OP have a problem with anyone but AOC?
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ETA has anyone told her that the overwhelming majority of Repubs (read: the actual neo-Nazis) voted with her against the bill?
Also choosing this moment to shill for Google is such a bad face, too
Dawt emm ell.
does she not realize she’s an elected fascist official for a slave empire?
what do Americans think Americans are?
So, in detail, what’s your plan to get rid of Trump?
If we’re not going to vote him out, how do you think we should get rid of him?
Talk about thinks like financing the struggle; maintaining security; communications and all the other little things an armed insurrection would need.
So, in detail, what’s your plan to get rid of Trump?
So, in detail, what’s your plan to stop your fascist empire’s genocidal rampage? You know, something that matters, unlike your psychosocial relationship with the specific person of Trump
what the f are you talking about
there is no “America” in the future
there is no future for the slave empire currently blighting the continent
I didn’t realize you were a psychic mind reader with extra sensory perception who could see into the hidden future.
How about some winning lottery numbers, oh great mystical mage?
you don’t get it
the wages of fascism are fire and death
TIL Germany, Italy, and Spain all literally do not exist.
So you’re saying the people don’t have to do anything at all?
Don’t have to vote or organize a revolution?
Just pray to Marx and he’ll send a thunderbolt?
“the people”???
how do you think slave empires usually end? do you think they go on forever until the cowards within their borders have a big election?
i think the war/ famine/ wildfire/ disease/ genocides that the empire has begun are going to continue spreading until they catch up with the empire and it collapses
you already have domestic concentration camps, a couple pandemics primed, and people who are so angry and lost they want to see nothing but the white bones of the ruling class
i think the empire thinks the pentagon and their nukes make them invincible and they’re going to learn the same lesson empires always learn
*edit i blocked this guy because he’s more interested in his “the people” and “consequences” imaginary constructs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide
When empires fall they don’t go easily.
Thinking America will just vanish with no consequences is magical thinking.
