• geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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        7 days ago

        Providing any aid to Israel as they carry out a genocide with U.S. support is completely unacceptable. This is even more true of military aid of any kind. Any funds that go to Israel assist this brutal genocide. Any support for Israel legitimizes its eliminationist campaign against the Palestinian people. The fact that Representative Ocasio-Cortez acknowledges that Israel is carrying out this genocide makes her support for military aid all the more disappointing and incongruous.

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            7 days ago

            She voted against the bill.

            True

            She voted against military aid for Israel.

            What is being discussed here is that she voted for military aid by voting against MTG’s amendment that would have blocked $500M of military aid.

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              7 days ago

              What is being discussed here is that she voted for military aid by voting against MTG’s amendment that would have blocked $500M of military aid.

              False. She voted against an amendment by MTG that had no chance of passing and voting for or against it was not voting for military aid for Israel. It was a waste of time and a political stunt by a racist conspiracy theorist. The aid was provided by the bill already. Voting against the bill is how you vote against the aid to Israel. And that’s what she did. Discussing the amendment that had no chance of passing is like blaming someone for what they did in a dream you had about them.

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                  9 hours ago

                  Yes, that’s a subjective perspective on the matter. And…?

                  I also keep seeing this:

                  “The progressive congresswoman deserves the heat she’s getting for her vote against a bill that would’ve held back aid to Jerusalem”

                  People keep calling the amendment a bill, which it is not. Even the PhD author of that article is misconstruing the vote in question despite correctly identifying it as an amendment elsewhere.

                  AOC voted against the bill that funded Israel. Full stop. Saying otherwise is counterfactual, i.e a lie. Full stop.

                  You can quibble over the repercussions of the amendment vote. I wouldn’t have voted for or against it personally. But saying she voted for funding Israel is not correct. Saying she funds genocide is not only incorrect but would be defamation if she weren’t a public figure.

                  But I will ask again, what is the value of attacking AOC on this point? Will it drive voters further to the left? Will it win primaries for progressive candidates? Will it in any way affect the funding of genocide in Gaza? What is the value of this fight? If it’s just feeling self-righteous but doesn’t have any useful results, why pursue it so fiercely? The only people this fight benefits are those who want someone farther right than AOC in office.

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              7 days ago

              It’s a literal fact. She voted nay on the bill. You’ve literally posted screenshots of her post citing the voting record. You keep pretending that everything you reference and link to says something different than it actually says.