The communist Justin Trudeau wants to tax carbon 😡

But I need this vehicle to buy groceries 😡😡

AX THE TAX 😡😡😡

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    They could get a crew van, fit more in it, and still fit in a standard parking spot.

    Probably also quite a few thousands of dollars cheaper.

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      Fuck you, vans are gay and you’re stupid cuck. /s

      That said, I recently saw a guy that bucked the trend and pimped his family van instead of going full truck. Lowered suspension, wider wheels, hot vinyl and a spoiler. Looked pretty good tbh.

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      I thought the same, but there may be a very specific combination of conditions where this could make sense: bad roads where ground clearance is needed, no sharp curves that require shorter wheel base, need to take 8 people and need to take their tools/materials. but probably they did just because they could

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        Honestly, those conditions sound like pretty much exactly what I’d expect working oil in Alberta, and given the cost to make that horrific of a modification, it wouldn’t suprise me if it was something used for work.

        It also would not suprise me if it was some jerk with more money than sense, esspecially as this wouldn’t necessarily conflate with the first.

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          given the cost to make that horrific of a modification, it wouldn’t suprise me if it was something used for work.

          Yeah this seems way too expensive to not have a specific use. I would assume this vehicle needs to transport 6+ people and also a bunch of stuff. There are plenty of vanity trucks you can buy without customizing a third seating row, that’s easily a 6-figure job.

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            Oil patch boys came from away and they used to make 1/4 of their present income on the patch, where there is little to spend money on.

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          It’s really not that bad, cab n chassis frame for a 12 foot deck, put a box on, find a wrecked truck with a 4 door and cut off the rear section. A good body guy can pull this off cheaper than you’d think…if you started with a 5 year old quad cab and chassis and a wrecked from front end damage rear of cab fine body and box, you could get it done price of a new truck, remember new trucks are 150 grand in Alberta now, full load.

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        Please.

        I’m from Alberta. This is just big dick energy.

        Besides, there are 4x4 crew vans with lift kits that the oil sands mines use to address the issues you’re talking about. Those are most certainly cheaper than this monstrosity, and if it was a work thing he’d have to have company decals on it.

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      No ground clearance on van, gona get stuck in the mud. less payload on van, can’t just drop a skid of what ever or extra long things like hydraulic cylinders into a van with out akward fucking around. less tow capacity on van, notice the tow bar on the back… What are you gona put a welder, diesel cans, gas cans, pales of hydraulic oil for equipment/ slip tanks, pumps and what not into the van too with the occupants? What about the greasy and oily ass clothes. Throw em in the van too? So they stain and fill the cab with VOCs?

      This is a purpose built one off, and alot of you are out of touch with how work gets done. Not evey job is hauling standard 8x4 drywall. Alot more trades work than just slinging plaster around.

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        You seriously going to tell me this thing was “purpose-built” for anything more than luxury for the occupants? There are vastly more efficient ways to accomplish anything this thing can do, the only difference is that there’s a tiny bit less legroom. Literally every single one of those things can be accomplished with a modified/lifted van and maybe a trailer.

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        This is totally a male enhancement device due to the lift and frame length. It’s weak in the frame and real regular off-road use will crack it.

        It’s a fucking joke just like the joke that drives it. “Look at me! I’m such a tough manly manchild. My beard is huge and I listen to country music even though I’ve never owned a cow and live in the suburbs.”

        Real working 4x4/dually trucks tend to be factory height (little higher than factory rear wheel) as you don’t want to lift heavy shit higher than you have to. They’re also beat to hell because they do real work.

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          I guess you also didn’t notice the tow bar in the back. Huh. Trucks tend to sit high. So when you load them the truck levels out. Instead of squatting down in the rear. Also I don’t know if this truck is a legit tow truck but if it is, say you had a family of 5 or 6 are on a road trip in your grand caravan. Get into an accident with a dumb shit wild deer/fucking phesant/ windigo w/e or brake down cause budy guy at the last gas station was dumping a bit to much home brew corn gas in the tanks. A regular tow truck fits only 4 people. Plus driver. So now you got to wait for another veichle. Out there shits so remote that could be 30 min or 2hrs depending on the stretch of road. Now you got this pigfugly monster. Your Pacifica/oddesy/Siena is on the hook. You and your family are all in the warm cab and no one is freezing. Because it’s January. Yeah I forgot to mention it January in Alberta -30ºC

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            Most male enahncement devices have towing crap on them so they can tow a boat or a camper once or twice a year. It also makes the manchild feel like a big boy.

            Lifted and that long means it absolutely isn’t a real truck. It’s a stupid toy.

            Again, real trucks are also beat up as they’re tools, not toys.

            I grew up working on a farm, I’ve been around industrial trucking my whole life since then. This isn’t a truck, it’s a toy owned by a boy with a masculinity inferiority complex.

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              Bud, how can you not tell that that is not a ball hitch or pintle hitch? It’s tow stinger, Mr. Farm. Also, the attitude of beat-up trucks is long gone. Turns out you can get more customers and sales when you don’t show up looking like Harry and Marv.

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                If you think spending tons of money on equipment that looks pretty and makes the job harder because you have to baby it is a good marketing tactic, you’re never going to survive as a business owner.

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                This one of my trucks, it’s a 98 chevy 3500.

                I’d post another pic of my 98 ranger with mud, carry rack and towing hitch as well as my play farm but Lemmy isn’t taking it right now and i have shit to do.

                That asshole isn’t driving a real truck otherwise he wouldn’t be taking up four spaces like that in the middle of the parking lot. He’d be parked in tne back row like not an asshole.

                The frame is too long to be a real truck. He spent over $100k to have people that actually work for a living to build it for him.

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        Comments like this are so ridiculous. Do you really think nothing ever gets build in Europe because people use vans and buses instead of emotional support vehicles? Canada is just another country, not fucking Mars

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          Didn’t you get the memo, Canada is often colder than the martian equator. 95 percent of the canadian population lives in greater toronto, the lower mainland of BC, and a couple other cities. The other 4 million people live in an area almost as big as russia.

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          Vehicles like this one are fairly common in the Alberta oil industry areas, and while they are overbuilt, they’re driving on roads that are worse than the ones through the old Bundeswehr training areas around Munster…if you took a Volkswagen transporter to a job site there, first you’d rip off the exhaust system, quickly followed by snagging the suspension components on something.

          Here’s a picture taken of an oilfield truck from Montana. (Sorry for the r link.)

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            Thanks for the informative comment. The linked photo looks like a much smaller truck than by OP. It would still be ridiculous on asphalt.

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          Hey dipshit there are only 4 places in the world that have oil sands. Canada, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Venezuela. So ther is no need for shit like this in Europe. Also the natural resource exploration pales in comparison to the rest of the world. Because Europe imports most of their natural resources from places that use “emotional support veichles”. Also in europe, more often then not your job site isn’t going to be 500km+ away from your origin. I’ve been in a many vans, fuck if I’m going to sit in a cramped ass tin can for 8hrs listening to road noise on an uncomfortable ass captains chair. When I can just sit in my lazy boy recliner in a quiet cab where I don’t have to yell to talk to guy beside me.

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            Okay, I don’t want to get into the entire thing why exploiting oil sands is clearly not a necessity and maybe a pretty terrible idea. I agree Europe imports way too many fossil fuels. But switching to alternatives with less reliance on others is clearly a more sustainable strategy.

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              Oh I agree there. Fuck the oil sands, garbage low quality oil that takes a massive toll on the environment, a low quality oil incomparison to other types. Cost way to much to extract. And costs way to much to refine. Hell i think there is only like one refinery in the states that even has the ability to refine that garbage. If gasoline sold for 1.10 per L or less, there would be no profits.

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      he doesn’t disagree, he notes it’s still bad but that might explain what we’re seeing here, kind of.

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      Nope. Required to have 4 wheel drive, and a diesel motor, for pipeline or drilling rig work. No gasoline or propane engines, greater explosion risk. Vans really, really suck off road, I have both a pickup and a van, both chevy, both old, both 2wd. There is no comparison between the truck and van off road or dirt roads, even though same powertrain. Ones a pavement princess. Now, a Suburban diesel 4x4 almost fits the bill, but no box for carrying whatever tools you need to take to the rig, or a welder.

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        As someone who drove a 4 wheel drive van 20 plus years ago, you are talking nonsense.

        As someone who lives in Ab and also has had to drive to a few camps, you are talking extra nonsense. I used an all wheel drive car and helped pick up the plastic shit that falls off all the trucks on site, since they are shit.

        This thing is just a dick extension.

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          I am literally telling you about oilfield policy and regulations, but sure, go off, anyone who actually knows can see who is making a fool of themselves right now. Yes, you can sometimes take other things on site, but there is a requirement to have at least one 4x4 pickup and the diesel requirement is real. 20 years ago is 20 years ago, I used to use a 2wd chevy 3/4 ton gasser too.

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            Ok, so what company? Since they use gas fleet rentals for most of the camps I am curious.

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                EUB

                The Energy and Utilities Board does not regulate trucks. But please tell all the gas and private vehicles on site that they need to turn themselves in.