• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 days ago

    Was it too difficult for you to read the meme? Does it need to be rephrased in simpler terms for you to understand?

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        I can’t say for sure but I think you’ve mistaken me for someone else.

        For… pointing out that your comment is in direct contradiction to the fact stated in the meme, the only thing stated by the meme, the purpose of the meme, which is hard to miss without failing to read the meme entirely?

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            I wonder if there’s a term for these kind of ‘unintended’ consequences to reckless foreign subterfuge

            Unless your implication is that there was ‘unintended’ consequences by the reckless foreign subterfuge of Pakistan - which would be deeply questionable, considering that the Taliban did and has offered them since nearly all their desired policy goals from supporting it.

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              Well that wouldn’t make any sense at all - blowback isn’t a description of something you wanted to have happen that you didn’t expect, it’s a description of something you didn’t want to happen that you didn’t expect

              Like the militant extremists you supported fracturing into new adversarial militants that fuck your shit up later.

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                Well that wouldn’t make any sense at all - blowback isn’t a description of something you wanted to have happen that you didn’t expect, it’s a description of something you didn’t want to happen that you didn’t expect

                Yes, which is why it would be a ridiculous term to apply here.

                Like the militant extremists you supported fracturing into new adversarial militants that fuck your shit up later.

                Again, where did this happen? And to whom? And what relevance does it have to the meme?

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                  where did this happen? And to whom? And what relevance does it have to the meme?

                  The first Taliban leaders were former Mujaheddin militiamen… the same mujaheddin that were backed by the US against the Soviets

                  Yes, the Taliban are different from the group the US backed in the 80s, but only because they specifically split from those anti-soviet militias against the factional war-lords who had taken power in the chaos of the second civil war.

                  I think it’s a little weird to be passionately dismissing the US’s role in setting the stage for the taliban, though. I didn’t think I was disagreeing with the meme, but it does seem like you really don’t like the implication that the US bears some responsibility for what happened in Afghanistan after the Soviets withdrew.

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                    The first Taliban leaders were former Mujaheddin militiamen… the same mujaheddin that were backed by the US against the Soviets

                    And the overwhelming majority of opposition to the Taliban were former mujahedin. I don’t really know what you think that proves?

                    Yes, the Taliban are different from the group the US backed in the 80s, but only because they specifically split from those anti-soviet militias against the factional war-lords who had taken power in the chaos of the second civil war.

                    As demonstrated in detail elsewhere here, that’s not even close to fucking true. But playing dumb is your specialty, isn’t it? You do this all the fucking time.

                    I think it’s a little weird to be passionately dismissing the US’s role in setting the stage for the taliban, though. I didn’t think I was disagreeing with the meme, but it does seem like you really don’t like the implication that the US bears some responsibility for what happened in Afghanistan after the Soviets withdrew.

                    Ah, so your argument is more of a “If only the Soviets were allowed to massacre Afghanistan with impunity, we wouldn’t have to deal with this pesky BLOWBACK of Pakistani imperialism in Afghanistan!”

                    Lovely.