No, they’re supposed to adapt and overcome. Just like any other time in history when things are tougher. And if you think this is a tough time you havent studied our history well. The Dirty 30’s, the Great Depressions, the first and second World Wars, even the Cold War Era was much more difficult. This doesnt even compare.
That is false. As a lesson learned from the Great Depression and the Second World war most countries made sure to have good social protection and wealth was relatively well distributed through good paying manufacturing jobs. People had access to opportunities in the form of free or cheap education and simple wealth through owning a house or apartment was accessible to a large portion of society.
Then Neoliberalism came up in the 80s to destroy this.
Free education was a tool to move most of the intelligent workers into white collar roles. Neoliberalism was possible because too few intelligent people were left to organize an opposition.
You must not be Canadian. We DO have good social protection for anyone who needs it. I worked with street people in a major Canadian city for years. The only way you could go hungry, or without shelter or food was if you willfully CHOSE not to access all the support programs available. We have plenty.
Homeless shelters are at full capacity, and food banks can’t keep up. You have a twisted perspective through your conservative brainwashed religious head.
Since when could they do that before? I bought my first house in the early 80s with a low skill job but the definition of “house” has changed. Most people would not consider a square 1940’s 600 sq ft shack with asbestos siding and single pane windows on the wrong side of the tracks worthy of a house they’d want to own, but we did.
Actually it got torn down to make way for a Shoppers Drug Mart.
But you got me curious so I went back to my home town and searched for a similar house in the same area. Found one similar to it but about 15 years newer and bigger listed for 159k so Id say mine if it was still standing would be about 145k. We sold for 33k so its gone up 4.4 times in value in 40 years. But then again the Canadian dollar has gone up 3.7 times in value due to inflation in the same time period.
So, yes houses cost more than they did, but not MUCH more in that town in particular.
My parents bought their house, brand new, on paper, in a suburban part of Montreal for 60k which was about the same amount as their yearly gross pay combined working as financial advisors in a local financial institution.
The same house today actually costs between 450-500k. The pay for that same position? 40k/person for the same amount of experience they had back then. That would make it about 80k/year. So the same house costs nearly 6 times the combined wages for that same position. SIX TIMES! And it’s not even is a nice place. It’s far from everything, has little public transportation options, and is surrounded by oil refineries.
I don’t know what small town you bought your house in, but it doesn’t reflect the reality that the vast majority of Canadians face.
The difference between now and the past is that our current world already produces enough of everything to be post-scarcity.
We produce enough food for 10+ billion people, so anyone going hungry anywhere is a policy failure.
We have technology and materials to give everyone shelter, so anyone being homeless is a policy failure.
We produce so much disposable clothes and electronics devices and other stuff that it is literally thrown away unsold in the desert.
There is absolutely no reason for people to have to toughen up, just to have access to basic human necessities.
The poor will always be among you. Even the Bible says that. And if you live in Canada you will be able to access many different gov and charitable programs for support. There is no lack of provision for necessities only lack of knowledge about where and how to access them. The US is a different story.
No, they’re supposed to adapt and overcome. Just like any other time in history when things are tougher. And if you think this is a tough time you havent studied our history well. The Dirty 30’s, the Great Depressions, the first and second World Wars, even the Cold War Era was much more difficult. This doesnt even compare.
That is false. As a lesson learned from the Great Depression and the Second World war most countries made sure to have good social protection and wealth was relatively well distributed through good paying manufacturing jobs. People had access to opportunities in the form of free or cheap education and simple wealth through owning a house or apartment was accessible to a large portion of society.
Then Neoliberalism came up in the 80s to destroy this.
Free education was a tool to move most of the intelligent workers into white collar roles. Neoliberalism was possible because too few intelligent people were left to organize an opposition.
You must not be Canadian. We DO have good social protection for anyone who needs it. I worked with street people in a major Canadian city for years. The only way you could go hungry, or without shelter or food was if you willfully CHOSE not to access all the support programs available. We have plenty.
Homeless shelters are at full capacity, and food banks can’t keep up. You have a twisted perspective through your conservative brainwashed religious head.
In Canada the average person can still buy a house with a low skill manufacturing job?
Since when could they do that before? I bought my first house in the early 80s with a low skill job but the definition of “house” has changed. Most people would not consider a square 1940’s 600 sq ft shack with asbestos siding and single pane windows on the wrong side of the tracks worthy of a house they’d want to own, but we did.
At least you had one. It’s probably worth half a mil today and out of most people’s reach.
Actually it got torn down to make way for a Shoppers Drug Mart.
But you got me curious so I went back to my home town and searched for a similar house in the same area. Found one similar to it but about 15 years newer and bigger listed for 159k so Id say mine if it was still standing would be about 145k. We sold for 33k so its gone up 4.4 times in value in 40 years. But then again the Canadian dollar has gone up 3.7 times in value due to inflation in the same time period.
So, yes houses cost more than they did, but not MUCH more in that town in particular.
Anywhere else, homes DO cost more. WAY more.
My parents bought their house, brand new, on paper, in a suburban part of Montreal for 60k which was about the same amount as their yearly gross pay combined working as financial advisors in a local financial institution.
The same house today actually costs between 450-500k. The pay for that same position? 40k/person for the same amount of experience they had back then. That would make it about 80k/year. So the same house costs nearly 6 times the combined wages for that same position. SIX TIMES! And it’s not even is a nice place. It’s far from everything, has little public transportation options, and is surrounded by oil refineries.
I don’t know what small town you bought your house in, but it doesn’t reflect the reality that the vast majority of Canadians face.
The difference between now and the past is that our current world already produces enough of everything to be post-scarcity.
We produce enough food for 10+ billion people, so anyone going hungry anywhere is a policy failure. We have technology and materials to give everyone shelter, so anyone being homeless is a policy failure. We produce so much disposable clothes and electronics devices and other stuff that it is literally thrown away unsold in the desert.
There is absolutely no reason for people to have to toughen up, just to have access to basic human necessities.
The poor will always be among you. Even the Bible says that. And if you live in Canada you will be able to access many different gov and charitable programs for support. There is no lack of provision for necessities only lack of knowledge about where and how to access them. The US is a different story.
What a twisted view of the world. You’re completely mental.
There are many ways to toughen up.
hi Thomas Robert Malthus, are you planning another genocide?