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Is this not obvious to everyone?
Hiring someone on this kind of visa puts them under your boot. They can’t ask for much or make waves without risking their whole life being upturned. If a citizen gets fired that sucks, but if you’re on a work visa you might have to leave the country (breaking your lease, leaving your partner, etc). I think you get 60 days. Given how bad the job market is, that’s not very long to find a new job. Also given how ICE is abducting people and sending them to a death camp, people are extra cautious.
It’s similar to how coupling health insurance to employment gives the employer extra power against labor. Are you really going to make a big deal about your boss pressuring you to work unpaid overtime when getting fired means you lose access to your life saving medicine?
People who get kicked out of the country if they lose their job usually don’t form unions or protest for fair pay or worker rights
fuck every border that’s what i think
He’s right. It doesn’t mean you hate foreigners to understand why bosses would prefer to hire someone with less rights and who needs less money to raise their family through remittances.
Most “leftist” American politician says: Immigrants are taking your good-paying American jobs!!!
pretty sure it says clear as day “large corporations aren’t hiring you because immigrants are cheaper and they shouldnt be”
Anyone with the ability to see that these systems are in place to further abuse the average worker and exploit emotions:
These systems have a history of and active effect of exploiting and abusing the average worker and immigrant.
It tracks. There is nothing a multi-million dollar company won’t do to screw its workers so it can give their shareholders a bigger profit.
A lot of the Tech related H-1Bs go to Consulting firms.
I have nothing negative to say about people on H-1Bs they work very hard and are working the hand they are dealt just like you and me.
The argument that talent can not be found within the US though is completely bogus.
It’s both, really. We could easily get the best and the brightest by offering better pay, but why sacrifice anything when you can have both?
He’s right
Hes completely wrong. https://www.h1bdata.org/
A random example using data from this link:
Apple Inc. employs 4116 H1B holders for “Software Develolment Applications” with an average salary of $136,794
Looking at Glassdoor the average salary for that position (from 6630 salaries in the US) is $215,000 - $330,000
dropdown menus?! explain to me!
I dont know why Bernie has flipped and is now parroting the immigrants stealing jobs meme. We dont have to guess we can easily look at the h1b rates and see they aren’t replacing Americans with low wages. The h1b wages are very high across the different industries and these industries havent had wage drops due to h1b workers coming over.
We dont have to guess we can easily look at the h1b rates and see they aren’t replacing Americans with low wages.
The site you linked very explicitly disagrees with you. Compare those h1b salaries with average salaries at the companies/positions they’re working for.
The h1b wages are very high across the different industries
Nobody has ever claimed they get paid minimum wage or something. Doesn’t change the fact that they are cheaper than non-h1b workers virtually 100% of the time.
that is not what sanders is saying
How is saying “replacing good paying american jobs with low wage indentured servants from abroad” not exactly that? I agree with Bernie on the servant part because of the visa restrictions but they’re paid well enough and they’re skilled enough that I dont feel sorry for them as they’ve got plenty of prospects for where to live.
Because the h1b visas are designed to lock in the person by sponsoring the h1b. So the company can basically pay you less than what the job is worth and you can’t say shit about it or they pull your h1b sponsorship and you get ejected from the country. It’s %100 indentured servitude.
Yeah I sort of agree with the lockin part but I wouldnt use the harsh term indentured servitude became theyre coming over with the expectation its a working visa not a permanent visa.
But that wasn’t tbe part i cared about. I care that the stats show the companies are still paying high salaries and the average pay for the non h1b workers is still going up because the demand for skilled workers is still high. Bernie is completely wrong to claim otherwise and he should know better.
The world (8 billion people) has more talent than when we keep it to the US (350 million people). We should want to import high level talent.
I don’t think that’s what Bush was thinking in 1990 when he split H1, nor what Truman was thinking when he made it.
In fact, with the current state of unemployment and skilled workers, the US needs as many educated/skilled people migrating as fast as possible, but I think it’s too late.
