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  • Technically it’s not really a horizon if it “opens up” allowing you to observe events from the inside afterwards. But of course in any realistic setting (including that experiment) it will open up eventually, so no horizon. But nature doesn’t know that it will open up, so maybe it should behave like a horizon until nature knows, resulting in a criteria like you said. I think the criteria is loosely equivalent to saying “the acceleration must change the speed by almost c”, so your centrifuge probably wouldn’t lead to radiation.

    But I really am not sure about any of this. The right way to do this is to actually calculate the mode function. One day when I’m better with QFT and all these stuff I’ll try to do it.


  • So I did a bit more reading. It seems like acceleration alone is not enough for invoking equivalence principle and saying we have Unruh radiation. If it was enough, non-blackholes objects would Hawking radiate like both of us were suspecting. Apparently physicists are quite confident only blackholes can Hawking radiate.

    There is another picture that may work better for us. Instead of thinking of Unruh radiation (which would require doing serious QFT in curved spcetime calculations), we can think of the radiation coming from ripples popping up near the horizon (the black hole horizon for Hawking, the Rindler horizon for Unruh).

    In this picture you absolutely need a horizon to get radiation. So on the centrifuge you won’t feel any radiation 🤷‍♂️



  • good meme!

    by the equivalence principle, even earth’s 1g gravitational field should already lead to some Unruh radiation for us, so you don’t even need a centrifuge!

    but your centrifuge is interesting. from the PoV of someone at rest angular momentum needs to be conserved so as you get fatter the rotation must slow down as @[email protected] said. but from the troll’s PoV why should they slow down? it’s a thermal spectrum, and acceleration is radially inward, so why should there be a retrograde force? (like, what makes the retrograde direction more special then prograde?)

    i think the resolution is you don’t get exactly Unruh radiation (because your acceleration isn’t actually constant (its rotating)), but how exactly that affects the mode functions i have no idea

    also let’s tag @[email protected]














  • Normally you can ignore the drag from the Interplanetary or Interstellar media, but if you had a ship that could travel at high relativistic speed, pushing past 0.9c, 0.99c, 0.999c, etc., you actually would have to consider the drag from it. Ships going that fast would have to be designed with aerodynamic principles in mind, just like atmospheric craft.

    This is new and surprising to me. Do you have a source? It seems to me that if it gets to a point where you need to design your ship using aerodynamic principle, you should also be able to drive your ship using aerodynamic principle (i.e., push on stuff around the ship, instead of expelling propellant from the ship as usual spacecrafts do).