• Etterra@discuss.online
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    7 hours ago

    See I’ve never understood why people obsess about living longer. All those extra years come at the end, which is the adult diaper, memory loosing, decrepit part of life. It doesn’t stretch out the younger good parts, it just staves off death during the miserable part. Personally I’d rather just get it over with sooner with a nice, quick aneurysm in my sleep.

    • 𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 hours ago

      i’ve never understood the western obsession with equating the pursuit for immortality with vanity. you tell me you hear you’re gonna die one day, lights out and that’s it no more you forever, and you don’t even have just a little thought in the back of your mind, constantly begging a solution to the inevitable?

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        I have the opposite little thought in the back of my mind. Knowing that my life will end one day gives me the energy to keep going. If I had to live forever, I would need a few 100 year naps or I’d go insane.

        Like if I die and “wake up” in the afterlife and I gotta keep existing. Fuck that. Send my energy back to the source and let it just vibrate.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      3 hours ago

      They’re talking about stretching out the whole ageing process. So if you live longer you also grow old more slowly.

      Rats average lifespan is 3 years, but that doesn’t mean they are really healthy, and then just drop dead, they go through the ageing process at a hyper-accelerated rate. Equally if humans had a lifespan of 120 years the old age part would move to around the 100 years mark, you wouldn’t start getting old at 60 and then just be geriatric for the next 60 years.

    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      This misconception is why I and many others prefer the precise wording: gaining healthy(ish) years.

      You don’t die of ‘old age’. You die of disease(s), which become more and more likely as you accrue damage throughout your life. You can’t really extend the period someone stays alive with end stage dementia or cancer. If anything, you can only prevent, halt, or slow the development of the diseases. And that’s what’s meant by longevity/extending life.

      Granted, you’ll still accumulate non fatal issues. But I’d argue you can lead a meaningful life with knee pain and far sightedness.

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        3 hours ago

        But I’d argue you can lead a meaningful life with knee pain and far sightedness.

        My back started hurting at 25, I hadn’t even had a job yet.

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          That sucks! Mine started hurting at 27 (this year). My knees started hurting it around 16. I dont think I should want to die due to this.

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      3 hours ago

      If you ever talk to anyone over the age of 100 every single one of them without fail, swears that the secrets to long life is brandy and cigarettes.

      Either they’re really on to something or they’re trying to kill everyone else off.

    • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      still need someone to explain me why a chemical that can make people happy has to be illegal.

      if there are also very dangerous, I get it. but if the risk is taking a long nap and changing your mind. then why would the government care?

      • jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works
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        12 hours ago

        The (US) government has a long history of outlawing useful, helpful or otherwise enjoyable things (MDMA, weed and psilocybin) while allowing more destructive things to proliferate (alcohol, opiates). Many governments worldwide still outlaw marijuana and some places will straight up execute people for it (singapore). Keeps the population in check and helped fuel conflict within the lower class to keep them from looking upward.

    • renrenPDX@lemmy.world
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      13 hours ago

      It’s not difficult to say, allow nature to do its thing and allow cubensis to grow naturally, in a shoebox.

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        Their brains are literally wired wrong. They will not learn empathy, but assume they are capable of more than they are.

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          17 hours ago

          They’re evil; not biologically different. You too could be an evil rich fuck, but instead you’re just a stupid poor fuck.

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            Some are biologically (that is, neurostructurally and neurochemically) different as a result of genetics. This is one of the key differences between psychopathy and sociopathy, as a matter of fact, in terms of the root cause of the condition.

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    2 days ago

    Oh look, it’s vice.com, so presumably these ‘scientists’ are from the University of Joe Rogan or U of Y(outube) or something.

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      They do link to the actual study, which does not throw up any immediately obvious signs to be cautious for me, but I also couldn’t do the detailed work of deeper research myself. They reference a hypothesis that preceded the study, which they were trying to test with this. I don’t know if this is a case of bias or even manipulation at work, but at least at a superficial glance, it doesn’t immediately scream “total hacks doing unscientific things.”

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    Good news, they find a treatment regimen that when applied to mice cause them to have a health span several times longer than the average health span of a mouse.

    Bad news, the treatment regimen when applied to humans causes them to have a health span several times longer than the average health span of a mouse.

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      Twist: It was all relative to the life span of a lab mouse, whos life is a living hell in nine out of ten cases.

      Meaning… the results will only confirm that there are controlling substances that will allow a populace to endure literal torture, and enable the rich to literally take over the world NOT for efficacy but for sheer chemical complacency.

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    Please be a “yes,” please be a “yes…”

    Edit: WOO! It’s a "looks that way in cell cultures so far!"🥳

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      I haven’t gone looking forthe souce paper, but from the article it looks like seretonin was the actual compound that’s having a beneficial effect, specifically serotonin outside the brain.

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        So how is a psychedelic pulling this off? The secret could be serotonin receptors found throughout the body, not just in the brain. When activated, they seem to trigger a cascade of effects that reduce stress, preserve DNA, and promote long-term cell health.

        They’re talking about psilocin’s activity at serotonin receptors, I’m pretty sure

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          It’s a bit ambiguous, so you could be right, but I took it to mean that activation of the receptors was that active mechanism, regardless of cause. Psilicin is just the compound they’re focused on, and maybe it does activate them in some unique way that has this effect, but the summary didn’t make that clear.

          If there are alternative pathways to activate the receptors they may be better suited to thereputic use without the psycadelic side effects.