We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.
So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.
Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?
North Korea does not allow its own people to leave. The situation is nothing like Gaza, and to claim otherwise is some dipshit 16 year old tankie nonsense. North Korea is the most oppressive country to have ever existed
If you read the previous comment more closely you’ll realize that the commentor wasn’t comparing today’s NK to Gaza, but Korea during the Korean War to Gaza. That is a reasonable comparison, as nearly every standing structure was bombed.
That’s war for ya
Damn, maybe we should stop doing them then.
Maybe North korea shouldn’t have started that war
What war? The Korean War from 70 years ago? Because they’ve been at peace since then, but some loonies in this thread want to go over and start trouble with them.
Not peace. Peace treaty never signed just not currently engaged
The difference between peace and an indefinite ceasefire is a scrap of paper. For all intents and purposes, they’re at peace.
Yes, the Korean war
"Koreans started the Korean War by invading Korea, so naturally the US had no choice but to drop a ton of chemical weapons on civilian targets, to defend itself.
Also, I’m an anarchist."
Cool.
You have obviously misunderstood me.
I was comparing the United States actions in the Korean War(1950s) to Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza. The mass civilian bombing campaigns, complete destruction of civilian infrastructure, manmade famine, widespread preventable disease, and imposed economic isolation are very similar between the two cases.
I am not comparing current-day North Korea to current-day Gaza, and I agree with you that would not be a good analogy.
North korea had comparable standards of living to south korea until the late 1980s, mid-1990s when they stopped getting bankrolled by the soviet union. Leaning on the war in the 1950s to explain modern NK is factually wrong. The reason North korea is in such a poor state is because
Their country clings on to a pseudo-scientific economic ideology which has destroyed their country
Their monarchist dictatorship is hell bent on an unsustainable nuclear weapons program and regularly threatens to annihilate their neighbors in a blaze of atomic glory. Sanctions against North korea are designed to prevent them from acquiring fissile materials for further development of weapons of mass destruction. Considering the stakes here, hitting them with sanctions is letting them off easy
If the North Korean government cared about its people (which it doesnt) then they would do 4 things:
End their nuclear ambitions
Implement market reforms to allow the free flow of trade and end centralized planning of their economy
Free all political prisoners and the 3 generations of their family which are considered guilty by association, and end the mass system of concentration camps which they run
The Kim dynasty must step down and allow free and fair elections
None of these things will happen because North korea exists solely to be the personal theme park/prison state for Kim Jong-Un, who does not care an iota for the wellbeing of the North Korean people
The issue as you see it:
The prescription you suggest:
So your thesis is that the 1950s war was inconsequential, and then you lay the entire blame on the Kim regime and their policies?
My dude, how do you think the Kim regime became a dictatorship?
Before the 1950s war, Kim was a weak puppet leader propped up by the Soviet Union. By the end of the war, the Kim regime had dictatorial power, which persists to this day.
It’s not inconsequential, but to blame the entire state if the country on the bombing campaign of the 1950s is to
Ignore the period that took place between the 1950s and the 1990s, during which their country was rebuilt with support from the soviet union (just as south korea was rebuilt with support from the US)
Deprive their government of literally all agency and blame their problems on the United States because it confirms your political biases
Nobody said that.