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minus-squareTja@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·5 days agoBecause other systems are much more sustainable. Just ask folks in Norilsk. Or Lake Karachay. Or pripyat. Or the Aral sea. Or…
minus-squareFundMECFS@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up6arrow-down1·5 days agoAh yes, the only possible systems are Capitalism and the Soviet Union, which in practice was basically state Capitalism.
minus-squareTja@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·5 days agoWe have China, want to talk about that? Cuba? Oh, oh… North Korea??
minus-squareFundMECFS@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up5arrow-down1·5 days ago…. Yeah, state capitalism. You’re not gonna tell me countries with billionaires, capital accumulation, market logic, are communist? The main exception is north korea but that’s just a totalitarian planned economy.
minus-squareTja@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down2·4 days agoCuba is capitalist? The things I learn on lemmy… Someone should let the Americans know!
minus-squareFundMECFS@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkarrow-up5arrow-down1·4 days agoCuba has corporations, billionaires, and “free” (neoliberal) trade. Just because they fly a red flag and call themselves communist doesn’t make them such.
minus-squareSemjaza@lemmynsfw.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·5 days agoYour point isn’t that the PRC is good for the environment? China is pretty capitalist and incredibly environmentally destructive. Huge amounts of waste incineration for the huge amounts of waste. . Restaurants will serve you in disposable plastic tubs with one use chopsticks, wrapped in plastic, because: It powers the economy, and gotta chase those GDP numbers. It’s convenient, and is the PRC loves convenience over life more than an ironic stage persona of Jello Biafra.
minus-squareTja@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·4 days agoMy point is that all countries are pretty non-sustainable, it’s not a capitalism thing. Maybe costa Rica, Iceland or Norway could be an exception if squint a lot.
minus-squareSemjaza@lemmynsfw.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·3 days agoCommodity Driven Modernity is absolutely non-sustainable, I agree. As a country Iceland comes close, and possibly could be sustainable with minor changes you’re right. The others, I know less about the situation of.
Because other systems are much more sustainable. Just ask folks in Norilsk. Or Lake Karachay. Or pripyat. Or the Aral sea. Or…
Ah yes, the only possible systems are Capitalism and the Soviet Union, which in practice was basically state Capitalism.
We have China, want to talk about that? Cuba? Oh, oh… North Korea??
…. Yeah, state capitalism.
You’re not gonna tell me countries with billionaires, capital accumulation, market logic, are communist?
The main exception is north korea but that’s just a totalitarian planned economy.
Cuba is capitalist? The things I learn on lemmy… Someone should let the Americans know!
Cuba has corporations, billionaires, and “free” (neoliberal) trade.
Just because they fly a red flag and call themselves communist doesn’t make them such.
Gotcha.
Your point isn’t that the PRC is good for the environment?
China is pretty capitalist and incredibly environmentally destructive.
Huge amounts of waste incineration for the huge amounts of waste. . Restaurants will serve you in disposable plastic tubs with one use chopsticks, wrapped in plastic, because:
My point is that all countries are pretty non-sustainable, it’s not a capitalism thing. Maybe costa Rica, Iceland or Norway could be an exception if squint a lot.
Commodity Driven Modernity is absolutely non-sustainable, I agree.
As a country Iceland comes close, and possibly could be sustainable with minor changes you’re right. The others, I know less about the situation of.