Stop it. This sort of cope is completely unproductive. I understand that you need to find someone to blame but those are also the people you need to get out of this mess. You clearly couldn’t avoid it without them. Be like Mamdani - ask why, understand and if you’re gonna blame, blame the ones who actually hold power.
No. I will NOT stop it. Those that are responsible need to be called out. They shouldn’t get to hide amongst the victims of their shit decision.
When they can one by one, stand up- and take responsibility for their part- maybe I’ll stop. But as of yet, I haven’t seen even ONE of them own it. No, they just lean even harder into it, but I guess shame will do that.
Additionally, in case you haven’t been paying much attention, take a look around. You’ll see them here, shouting at everyone, blaming liberals/democrats… and yet, I don’t see you responding to them to “stop it.”
So, no, I don’t think I’ll stop it. All we have now- is to blame the responsible parties and hope that through shame and responsibility, they can be trusted not to make this same mistake the next time….
I understand that you need to find someone to blame
Yes. The people whose fault it is.
People don’t get to escape accountability just because we need their vote in a potential future election.
People will suffer and die because of these morons. I mean, everyone is going to suffer to some degree because of them. It’s entirely acceptable to call them out. Letting them escape accountability doesn’t fix anything. You don’t learn anything when your mistakes are brushed off and you’re embraced without acceptance of fault.
They acted like petty children. Now we’re all suffering. Some WAY more than others. Yes, fuck them.
Calling people out in this way does not typically result in corrective action. People do not get the conclusions they do because of their internal sources of wisdom. Instead they, and us, largely compute our conclusions based on the information we receive. The vast majority of that information is flowing via corporate channels, which funnel the right information to get corporate-friendly conclusions. The fact that me and you are talking on a socialist platform is such an outlier, driven by so much luck and extra work we’ve been able to do that it’s nothing short of a miracle. If the information reaching the people you call out doesn’t change, they won’t draw different conclusions and instead tell you to go fuck yourself, to your face, or at the ballot box. We can’t change the corporate channels at the moment. The only information that reaches them that could be different is our voices, through social channels. This is why I’m saying that we should use that to feed new information that could potentially put some cracks in the corporate propaganda. If that information is I-told-you-so, it’s probably not going to do that. Empathy, understanding, information, helping them see what we see could. This is a class war and we don’t have a chance if we fight our class (when we have a choice). I assume you also work for a wage or a salary like me and most Trump voters.
Stop it. This sort of cope is completely unproductive. I understand that you need to find someone to blame but those are also the people you need to get out of this mess. You clearly couldn’t avoid it without them. Be like Mamdani - ask why, understand and if you’re gonna blame, blame the ones who actually hold power.
No. I will NOT stop it. Those that are responsible need to be called out. They shouldn’t get to hide amongst the victims of their shit decision.
When they can one by one, stand up- and take responsibility for their part- maybe I’ll stop. But as of yet, I haven’t seen even ONE of them own it. No, they just lean even harder into it, but I guess shame will do that.
Additionally, in case you haven’t been paying much attention, take a look around. You’ll see them here, shouting at everyone, blaming liberals/democrats… and yet, I don’t see you responding to them to “stop it.”
So, no, I don’t think I’ll stop it. All we have now- is to blame the responsible parties and hope that through shame and responsibility, they can be trusted not to make this same mistake the next time….
If there is ever a next time after this.
Yes. The people whose fault it is.
People don’t get to escape accountability just because we need their vote in a potential future election.
People will suffer and die because of these morons. I mean, everyone is going to suffer to some degree because of them. It’s entirely acceptable to call them out. Letting them escape accountability doesn’t fix anything. You don’t learn anything when your mistakes are brushed off and you’re embraced without acceptance of fault.
They acted like petty children. Now we’re all suffering. Some WAY more than others. Yes, fuck them.
Calling people out in this way does not typically result in corrective action. People do not get the conclusions they do because of their internal sources of wisdom. Instead they, and us, largely compute our conclusions based on the information we receive. The vast majority of that information is flowing via corporate channels, which funnel the right information to get corporate-friendly conclusions. The fact that me and you are talking on a socialist platform is such an outlier, driven by so much luck and extra work we’ve been able to do that it’s nothing short of a miracle. If the information reaching the people you call out doesn’t change, they won’t draw different conclusions and instead tell you to go fuck yourself, to your face, or at the ballot box. We can’t change the corporate channels at the moment. The only information that reaches them that could be different is our voices, through social channels. This is why I’m saying that we should use that to feed new information that could potentially put some cracks in the corporate propaganda. If that information is I-told-you-so, it’s probably not going to do that. Empathy, understanding, information, helping them see what we see could. This is a class war and we don’t have a chance if we fight our class (when we have a choice). I assume you also work for a wage or a salary like me and most Trump voters.