There’s way more nuance than Lemmy pretends. It’s difficult to deal with, because there’s a lot of nuance and several grains of truth lying around.
They’re afraid if someone on “their side” is out there yelling “I’m a socialist”, that it’ll scare the donors. That much is true.
Lemmy forgets that you need donors and allies to win elections. I honestly think many people pushing the “both sides” narrative actively want us all to lose.
We don’t need to be as beholden to donors as the general Democrats are. We have a lot of room for Democratic Socialist policies. But if we use our platforms to yell about how both sides are the same, well, first, they’re absolutely fucking not, and second, that’s going to get people to stay home and lose elections.
We need to pull the party to the left. Partly that’ll help win elections. IF we don’t sink the boat while we’re doing it.
We can elect the people we want. We also need to elect some that aren’t perfect. That’s how Democracy works.
You aim to get some ideal representatives, some less than ideal representatives and maybe some real compromises, and you team up against the literal fucking Nazis.
That doesn’t mean we have to be the ones to compromise every time. Looking forward to this NYC election.
So he’s too far left?
Despite what Fox News may tell you, the Democrats (well, the DNC leadership in particular) aren’t “left.”
They are when they are being called radical.
I’m just going off of what was said in the prior comment. I haven’t looked anything up quite yet
Then why are you commenting?
To converse and learn. To engage with the community and gain perspective.
And he’s probably not even particularly left.
Maybe, but not if he wants to live long.
There’s way more nuance than Lemmy pretends. It’s difficult to deal with, because there’s a lot of nuance and several grains of truth lying around.
They’re afraid if someone on “their side” is out there yelling “I’m a socialist”, that it’ll scare the donors. That much is true.
Lemmy forgets that you need donors and allies to win elections. I honestly think many people pushing the “both sides” narrative actively want us all to lose.
We don’t need to be as beholden to donors as the general Democrats are. We have a lot of room for Democratic Socialist policies. But if we use our platforms to yell about how both sides are the same, well, first, they’re absolutely fucking not, and second, that’s going to get people to stay home and lose elections.
We need to pull the party to the left. Partly that’ll help win elections. IF we don’t sink the boat while we’re doing it.
Zohran Mamdani won against Cuomo, despite Cuomo having the billionaire donors.
Also the Democrats running after billionaire donors orders had them loose to Trump not once but twice.
Uhh but Zohran got donors from the people. 20k people donated to his campaign fund. You don’t need billionaires to fund your campaign.
Heck, look at Kickstarter. They still manage to get millions from the regular people.
“We can’t elect people who do the things we want, otherwise we won’t be able to elect people who do the things we want.”
If he gets elected that proves the entire premise wrong.
We can elect the people we want. We also need to elect some that aren’t perfect. That’s how Democracy works.
You aim to get some ideal representatives, some less than ideal representatives and maybe some real compromises, and you team up against the literal fucking Nazis.
That doesn’t mean we have to be the ones to compromise every time. Looking forward to this NYC election.