Ignorant is insulting other users in a community that explicitly forbids it.
Stupid is failing to take the hint, doubling down and earning a temp ban, and then going after the mod in PMs.
Let me ask you a question… You’ve seen sports, right? I mean, maybe not as a fan or anything, but you’ve seen basketball, football, baseball, games, right? Even a tennis match?
You ever, once, see someone yell and scream at a ref and have the ref go “You know, you make a salient point, I changed my mind.”? No. You know why? Because then EVERYONE will do it.
You are the one who started off the stupid argument in a pointlessly combative way, based on trite caricatures of complex and controversial topics, then used your mod powers to delete the responses of the guy you picked a fight with for no better reason than that they said something “unhelpful.” It’s not what I would call ideal behaviour for a community moderator.
This is how these particular subs are managed. Mods flame, then claim rule abuse, then ban. This toxic turd should be removed from all forms of moderation across all subs.
If your point is strong, why do you continue to distort the interaction?
Ignorant does not mean stupid or asshole. You said “we both know what you meant” when you clearly didn’t. Your feelings were hurt due to what seems to be insecurity, and you took a derogatory read of it.
And you still can’t answer the question at the heart of it all.
I called you out and you power tripped and then tried to act hard in DMs.
What matters here is that people will interpret “ignorant” as an insult, and you have other ways to convey the same (e.g. “uninformed”, “clueless”, etc.)
Note: I actually agree with your argumentation in the thread. The issue is tone. It’s because of that tone I think you deserved it.
As a user you were also behaving poorly there; in fact your interaction with the OP sounds like two children “waaaaah, I asked you first!!11one” at each other. I’m not also blind to the blatant straw man you set up right off the bat, and that Nay was actually spot on when they asked “What -is- communism to you?”. I might agree with the way you handled Nay as a mod, but frankly? If I saw both in one of my comms I’d be giving both the same short end of the stick.
Nah. You’re being clearly belittling through the whole thread. Too eager to voice your own opinion, but un-eager to dialogue.
[Before someone distorts the above, be aware plenty communists also do this sometimes. Including myself.]
I was asked for MY definition of it. And I gave it.
What you did is perhaps easier to see from the other side. Pretend you asked a communist their definition of communism, and they answered one of those two things:
“Communism is a post-socialism system, where class hierarchy ceased to exist, acc. to Marxist theory”.
“Communism is a system that solves all plagues of capitalism, re-enabling freedom for the population, so you don’t need a Luigi Mangione dirtying his hands.”
#1 is giving you a definition. #2 isn’t. What you did there was way closer to #2 than to #1.
And by the context it’s clear Nay asked for your equivalent of #1 - because it’s known communists and non-communists use the word “communism” to refer to different things.
I speak on authority of my opinions of things because I get to do that.
Someone’s opinions can lead them to adopt one or another definition, but the definition itself is not an opinion; they’re two different cans of worms. One should not be misrepresented as the other.
Looks like someone is ignorant of the difference between “stupid” and “ignorant.”
Ignorant is insulting other users in a community that explicitly forbids it.
Stupid is failing to take the hint, doubling down and earning a temp ban, and then going after the mod in PMs.
Let me ask you a question… You’ve seen sports, right? I mean, maybe not as a fan or anything, but you’ve seen basketball, football, baseball, games, right? Even a tennis match?
You ever, once, see someone yell and scream at a ref and have the ref go “You know, you make a salient point, I changed my mind.”? No. You know why? Because then EVERYONE will do it.
Ignorant is not knowing something, like the definition of ignorant.
Ignorant is correctable… Refusing to be corrected? Yeah…
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You are the one who started off the stupid argument in a pointlessly combative way, based on trite caricatures of complex and controversial topics, then used your mod powers to delete the responses of the guy you picked a fight with for no better reason than that they said something “unhelpful.” It’s not what I would call ideal behaviour for a community moderator.
This is how these particular subs are managed. Mods flame, then claim rule abuse, then ban. This toxic turd should be removed from all forms of moderation across all subs.
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If your point is strong, why do you continue to distort the interaction?
Ignorant does not mean stupid or asshole. You said “we both know what you meant” when you clearly didn’t. Your feelings were hurt due to what seems to be insecurity, and you took a derogatory read of it.
And you still can’t answer the question at the heart of it all.
I called you out and you power tripped and then tried to act hard in DMs.
What matters here is that people will interpret “ignorant” as an insult, and you have other ways to convey the same (e.g. “uninformed”, “clueless”, etc.)
Note: I actually agree with your argumentation in the thread. The issue is tone. It’s because of that tone I think you deserved it.
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Ffs dude, I don’t want an argument. I want my actions to be truthfully represented.
If you really feel justified why are you misrepresenting the situation? It’s all on record anyway.
You -feel- like I called you stupid and asshole, and you used your modding privileges accordingly.
If I’m being ignorant, I prefer to have it called out so I can learn.
As a user you were also behaving poorly there; in fact your interaction with the OP sounds like two children “waaaaah, I asked you first!!11one” at each other. I’m not also blind to the blatant straw man you set up right off the bat, and that Nay was actually spot on when they asked “What -is- communism to you?”. I might agree with the way you handled Nay as a mod, but frankly? If I saw both in one of my comms I’d be giving both the same short end of the stick.
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Nah. t’s clear that you were not being civil in that conversation: for example
Those things might not be overtly aggressive, but they rub people off the wrong way; that is not civil behaviour IMO.
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Nah. You’re being clearly belittling through the whole thread. Too eager to voice your own opinion, but un-eager to dialogue.
[Before someone distorts the above, be aware plenty communists also do this sometimes. Including myself.]
What you did is perhaps easier to see from the other side. Pretend you asked a communist their definition of communism, and they answered one of those two things:
#1 is giving you a definition. #2 isn’t. What you did there was way closer to #2 than to #1.
And by the context it’s clear Nay asked for your equivalent of #1 - because it’s known communists and non-communists use the word “communism” to refer to different things.
Someone’s opinions can lead them to adopt one or another definition, but the definition itself is not an opinion; they’re two different cans of worms. One should not be misrepresented as the other.
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