• anakin78z@lemmy.world
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    I just read a book that somewhat follows this kind of premise: A person believes in ghosts, and all these things happen, and, as the reader, I’m totally on board with it being ghosts. Then a new character enters, and gives logical explanations for everything, and the main character, and me, the reader, realize that, oh damn, it’s not ghosts at all. Except then it turns out it WAS ghosts, and the shit hits the fan.

    It was a really fun read.

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    Hot take: Debris was on track for something like that.

    It had “new strange” style storytelling with a very grounded Sci-Fi basis, interesting episiodes, and a conspiracy arc to tie it all together. There were also hints at things well beyond understanding, turning typical X-Files formula inside out: “it’s all explainable phenomena and everyone knows it, but some things take time to understand.” The major flaw here were wooden performances and un-charismatic characters that just fail to pull you in.

    That said, there’s no reason to wait for an X-Files reboot. SCP has more than enough lore to get the ball moving, and there’s gotta be a webisode series or small-studio production team out there just waiting for eyeballs and donations.

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    Maybe with one subplot coming up occasionally that simply cannot be explained rationally, which drives Scully mad.

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    That would turn it into Scooby Doo. In the end it always turns out to be done by some greedy prick trying to cover things up with mysticism.

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    Thinking about that now, it’s one of the most long-running and popular media-things concerning ‘deep state’ fears before 2016. And while The X-Files ended, and for someone like me ended too late, one that toppled it is still running around on coke and hamberders having the most unpenetrateable fanbase ever. Why it’s not Firefly but Taco having a second season?

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    NO. Do NOT meddle with my X-Files just because you want to satisfy some selfish bullshit. Good DAY, sir.

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    I feel that any sufficiently understood form of the supernatural would just folded into science, it would be cool to see a show with a hybrid character like scully that is still a scientific and skeptic minded person that can ratle off the sub species of gnomes but knows that they where chased out of the reagon centuries ago and there haven’t been any reports of them in the neighbouring regions that couldn’t be explained away, while yes gnomes exist it turns out it was a serial killer using folk tales to throw off the investigation

    I guess the short way to put it is there’s no reason things need to be mundane to be logically explored with scientific methods

    “Most humans regect the existence of the supernatural just as some regect the validity of vaccines despite the vast documented evidence.”

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      What you’re describing is the Science Fantasy subgenre. If you haven’t already, like Sanctuary and Fringe are exactly what you’d be looking for.

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        Ya I’ve seen those but I felt like this would be a better alternative to scully always being right and nothing really fun happening, I guess I’d rather have supernatural + CSI instead of scooby doo + CSI, not sure if CSI is the best example but the only other cop show I could think of was law and order

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    I hear you but nah. We have more than enough “realistic” and “gritty” shows. The whimsy of X-files was what made it tick. Taking that away would just make it boring which is the worst possible outcome for such a show.

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      We don’t have nearly enough shows that promote healthy skepticism and the scientific method though.

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        True, but I feel the original X-files had that in droves with Scully and practically everyone else opposing Mulder at every turn. It took a damn long time for him to finally be vindicated, arguably until the movie.

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          Even in the movie they weren’t technically aliens. It was just ancient sapient black goo that was here long before we evolved.

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          Did it promote skepticism and science though? It showed them being applied, sure. In the end though, the show was always on Mulder’s side of the “truth”. Of course it also kind of said “Scully’s work is important” but it was always assumed that her view of any situation would ultimately be the wrong one. Her science-oriented methods break down when it comes to (in the broadest sense) “supernatural” phenomena - because they are, by definition even, outside science.

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            Her science-oriented methods break down when it comes to (in the broadest sense) “supernatural” phenomena - because they are, by definition even, outside science.

            I only watched the first 2 or 3 seasons of The X-Files, so I there’s lots of episodes I haven’t seen, but this seems incorrect to me. Scully and Mulder were chasing unexplained phenomena, which are entirely within the realm of science. Humans tend to call things “supernatural” when we don’t know how to explain them (ghosts, monsters, aliens, etc), but those entities (in the context of The X-Files where they are actually real), once observed, can be subjected to the scientific method the same as anything else. Aliens and cryptids and such in The X-Files aren’t magic; it’s just extremely rare for humans to be able to observe and study them.

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      That’s not even a stretch. Her full (married) name could easily be Dana Velma Scully, but she doesn’t go by her very distinctive middle name anymore. If I’d had a super funky middle name, I definitely would have used it in high school and definitely wouldn’t as an adult. And I’m not half as (lovably) joyless as Scully is.

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      Every once and a while a few unexplainable things add up over a season, just to end with Scully pulling the face off an alien in the finale to reveal a stoned teenager and a dog are pranking Mulder…

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      Hire Mindy Kalinh. not that I’ll watch it, but they internet will lose its mind