• F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    I always respond and give the “right” answers because it’s either an HR psychopath checking your answers to see if you’re a dangerous unionist or now a damn AI.

    So yes I’d like to kill myself for your company, then find something else and EAT SHIT

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    13 hours ago

    Acquired responsibility under a working contract ≠ Motivation for signing a working contract

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      Sure but we are responsible for our own health and that of our family also, so the main objective for many is to obtain “stable employment” the more invisible, the better.

      Work to live. Not live to work.

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          Its asking what my primary responsibility is when acquiring a new job.

          My primary responsibility is to look after my own health and wellbeing and to some extend the wellbeing of people i interact with. This at all times regardless of what my current goal is.

          The most direct way a job relates to wellbeing is that it can provide a stable income to live from. So that is the correct answer.

          No amount of additional context can change this.

          Id like to take it a step up even.

          The primary responsibility for any employer Is to make sure its employees have “enough” wage. Because if they can’t those jobs become objectively inhuman.

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    I’ve heard these described as a “legally acceptable way of filtering out people with autism” and man I’ve not seen them the same way since.

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      I think it would just filter people who know what the correct answer is supposed to be.

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        I don’t disagree, I just also believe that the people who don’t know what the expected answer is are proportionally more likely to be on the spectrum than not.

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      Not that I necessarily think they’re trying to discriminate against people with autism giving blood, but there’s one of these on the blood donation intake questionnaire.

      Intake Questionnaire: In the last year, have you used any illegal drugs via needle injection?

      Me: No.

      IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who uses illegal drugs via needle injection?

      Me (married): Well, it’s not as if I can keep an eye on my wife 24/7… you know what, I’m just going to mark it No.

      IQ: In the last year, have you had sex for money?

      Me: No.

      IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who has had sex for money?

      Me: I’M TELLING YOU, I CAN’T KEEP AN EYE ON HER AT ALL TIMES, SO FUNDAMENTALLY I CANNOT GIVE A CERTAIN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION!

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        Sounds like you need to improve your communication with your wife about her potential IV drug use and extramarital affairs.

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          I don’t watch her 24 hours a day! I can’t say, with certainty, that she doesn’t transform into a dragon and fight gremlins in a parallel dimension when I’m not around! It’s a fundamentally impossible question to answer, short of “To the best of my knowledge…”

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        That one at least has a reasonably understandable medical purpose, all donated blood is tested for the kinds of diseases that these questions are meant to attmpt to screen for, and any amount of testing that can be avoided early saves them more money to spend on other lifesaving pursuits.

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      Not really, in this case the more literally you read the question the better. It asks what responsibility you acquire when you have a job not why you got the job.

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      In what way? Are autistic people more likely to value company profits over personal goals?

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        No, but they’re more likely to answer honestly (that they get a job for wage).

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        My understanding is more that it presents a “logically correct” choice (making money to pay bills and be generally… alive) and a “socially correct” choice (the corporate answer) to filter people out.

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      I have had a theory that the personality tests are just to have an excuse to discriminate with plausible deniability.

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        This is absolutely the case. In the documentary “The Fog of War” (a great documentary IMO) Robert McNamara explains how he helped create a personality test to screen applicants for Ford (I think it was them).

        One of the questions was “Would you rather be a coal miner or a florist?”. McNamara says his family had owned a florist but the answer they wanted coal miner. For “obvious reasons”.

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        Yep quite a few years back I had two jobs lined up , already got the first but the second one wanted a second interview after I filled in a 50 page personality test. I felt the first offer would be interesting and better paid but wanted to see what they offered. So I said why not just be completely honest instead of faking it :) very interesting interview, I just told them that whoever sold them this idea was probably a very good salesman. The tool is just pointless. I got to much risk taking etc , yea I like skydiving… I’m not skydiving at work. … if you want people to bullshit you it’s pretty good though haha

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      yep when I applied to work at target a few years ago, there should have been absolutely no reason for them to not consider me but I took that thiny veiled screening test and wow I suddenly don’t get a response.

      fuck corpos man

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    As soon as I read the responses I knew what this was. Guys you have no obligation to believe any of the training they give you. You know what the answers are supposed to be to be. Just tell them what they want to hear and keep going. They are still legally responsible for what happens on the job. This is just something they do to get rid of people or prevent people from getting hired.

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    Remember to tell them what they want to hear and they will do the same but we all know it is just a game.

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          iirc in the 50s they taxed rich people out of 90% of their wealth.

          obviously they rolled that back because they werent deposed like they should be, but really makes you think.

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    i want all business owners to know: i, and millions like me, lie through my fucking teeth on these “surveys,” telling you what we know you want to hear, while quiet quitting every minute of every day. because fuck you

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    I would think that any business having this on an employment screener would be a huge red flag. But also, part of being a seasoned (read: weathered) corporate wage slave is answering nonsense like this with the corpo-appropriate response and NOT your actual thoughts.

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      I once applied for a pretty “standard” job. In return, i was asked to complete a survey which was a requirement. This survey consisted of some questions about “what would you do in this scenario if you would work here” (some of them were video-based ones). Since i have quite enough experience working in retail - i answered those questions kinda realistically even tho i thought that in perfect world the actual answer should be different (so called by you @[email protected] - “corpo-appropriate”). I finished the survey and i got a email with the results…

      … it was something like “Not bad! There is a potential to improve” in a kinda mean way

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        I refuse to record video answers for an interview. I’ve actually drawn a line at the whole one-way interview in general. If you can’t make the time to talk to me on the phone or on video chat, then you’re not a company I want to work for. Plus, a lot of companies use those video responses to discriminate against people without having to look the person in the eye. It’s so cowardly, and I won’t participate in it.

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        In half of them it’s just “seek direction from my supervisor” or “follow company policy or procedure.”

        Basically it’s never “think for yourself” for anything below manager.

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        Yeah, had to answer a few of these in a personality match assessment when I was greener. Answered them truthfully and… never got a response from the company. But things like: are you willing to grind yourself into dust if the need arises, do you perform 110% 24/7 or just enough to eek by, and the classic “do you work to live or live to work”.

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          Seems like you just dodged the bullet.

          For corps you should live to work.

          Corps actually forget that people work primarily for money which they spent to make a living.

          Majority of people doing extra % are those who can’t afford living with their normal wage and they see it as the only way to get the money needed. Corps notices it so they think they can abuse those people to do even more extra work for nothing just because “they are hard-working believers in corporate and self success”.

          This is fucking bullshit

          P.S.

          Of course, there are also people (altough in minority) that will do extra work even if they don’t need to, but they actually want to. That’s on them and i respect it.

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    Even the chosen answer is like the bottom minimum of what I expect of a job.

    I’d like to be able to pay my bills and have something left at the end I can splurge on something else.

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    I mean, that’s what the business wants from you.

    I’m surprised they laid it out like that though.