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    Me: “That’s not ADHD, that’s just being human!”
    Her: “No, no, really, not.”
    Me: “What are you saying? I don’t have ADHD.”
    Her: “You sure?”
    Me: “Of course I’m sure.”
    Me: Joins lemmy.
    Lemmy: Lots of ADHD memes.
    Me: “Huh.”

    And yes, I thought I was the only really outgoing shy person I knew of, and I couldn’t ever make sense of it.

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    This is probably because introvert and extrovert are just made up and there’s no evidence anyone falls neatly into either.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    I learned that being chatty and introverted are not mutually exclusive long before I got my diagnoses. Just because I can, and will, tell my server they got my order wrong when it’s wrong doesn’t mean I am an extrovert. It means I am high and not feeling socially anxious and I really want my burger the way I asked.

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    🙈

    I avoid people at all cost, and for the special few that make it into my life, I just won’t shut the fuck up 😭

    It’s a problem, every night my partner has to manage my chattiness, if allowed I will just pillow-talk until 2am.

    but yeah, I’m not autistic.

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    I was like this. I was diagnosed at 28 years old, and now I’m 39. The last remnants of my extroverted tendencies are dying, though. I recently had two friends ghost me because of trauma influenced behavior that I was experiencing. People pretend they’re tolerant of autism riiiiiiiight up until something genuinely difficult happens. Then you get to see how your “friendship” was based on a masked version of you and therefore completely fake.

    Someone I thought I had a 20 year “friendship” with ghosted me with zero explanation after I moved 1600 miles across the country to live closer to. My extraverted tendencies cause more harm than the loneliness that comes with introversion. It’s just not worth it.

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    Kind of, I was always just introverted and finding out I had autism and unlearning the coping mechanisms I made from not knowing wtf was going on made me able to be more extraverted then before, at least briefly.

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    I used to call myself an introvert with extrovert tendacies and so ya, I’m in this meme lol.

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    What is an extroverted introvert? As a youth I was introverted and its still my nature but I found I liked drama and being in a chorus and debate type things as I got older but Im still more likely and more than happy to quietly sit and read or mess with a device or be with my thoughts in a group setting and ill at ease meeting people.

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      What is an extroverted introvert?

      It is a made up meme to explain the fact that almost no one is really extroverted or introverted. meyers-briggs, which is unscientific and was just made up by some dumbass who said “I think humans be like this”, says all people are either extroverts or introverts. But in reality, one’s level of extroversion or introversion depends heavily on environmental factors such as overall energy level or level of comfort with a particular person/group. To the extent that extroversion is a measurable, stable personality trait at all, when it is measured it fits a bell curve across the population - ie, the vast majority of people land smack dab in the middle of extroverted/introverted.

      So if you say you are an extroverted introvert, you’re just saying you’re a normal fucking person. It comes from people accepting Meyers-Briggs as hard fact (it isn’t), and then trying to fit this square peg into the round hole of their actual lived experience.

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      Exactly! I mean, my son has an autism diagnosis, and my wife has ADS, and my best friend has both, and I work in a field where almost everyone is diagnosed with something, but surely I am normal, because no one diagnosed me. Yet.

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        It’s not hard to get a test

        Even if money isn’t an issue, it’s actually really hard (particularly for someone with ADHD symptoms) to take the official test. It’s very Catch-22.

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          funny thing, I took my test in NZ where it’s cheaper and easier apparently, still cost a couple of thousand $NZ but I was given a bunch of forms to fill in… Found a quiet place to do them in time, read them and filled them in. then realised I’d not read them properly and had to request the forms be resent to complete a second time, this time body doubling with the misses to ensure I’d read and completed them appropriately.

          felt like it was part of the test

          can you read and fill in these forms by yourself? no, no I can’t…

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        I have money but its a 3 year wait if you can convince a GP to refer you… so that’s still fun.

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          I got mine done by a clinical psychology master’s student supervised by their professor. It was half the price (and my insurance ended up covering 40%), no GP referral required. If anyone reading this has a college or university near them, check if they have that option. Added bonus is that the students are usually more up to date on current diagnostic criteria compared to someone who has been practicing in the field for a while.

          I also get my dental check ups done at the university dental school for the same reason.

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          Holy shit, 3 years?

          My GP was doing a conference, her replacement was literally the person in the entire region in charge of this specific area.

          She said “we could do tests, but it would only eventually come across my desk to give the final stamp. You don’t need that. You have ADHD”

          I know I got lucky, but… Three years…

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          I was able to convince my GP to get me a reference after my son was diagnosed. The diagnosis he got was for anything required from school. I got a waiting time of 10 years via the public system or 2 years via the private. My diagnosis could not entitle me for anything else than ‘better know myself’.

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      Ive always referred to myself as a social introvert. Ill go to social events, have fun, but boy is it exhausting and id rather spend time home alone doing nothing

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      There are a bunch of different definitions people use for introversion/extroversion. “Extroverted introvert” means you’re extroverted by one definition and introverted by a different one.

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      I’m a huge introvert, but if I can get past the initial hurdle of getting my ass motivated to actually meet with people, I have a good time. I’ve also been in sales/public facing jobs for most of my working life, which blows people away when they realize how antisocial I can be. I mask very well.

      Most of the time, it’s how much juice is left in my social battery that dictates what I end up doing. I will avoid my best friends of 20+ years if I’m not in the mood.

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          I swear I will get officially diagnosed and medicated this year. I know I’ve said it for about a decade, but this is the year, lol.

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            Found a doctor that was just like “oh yeah. You definitely have ADHD. Let’s get you some meds”

            After like 10 years of referrals that I either never went to follow up on or got pushed away from I finally got medicaded.

            It literally took luck because I was always just so demotivated by the whole process. They literally make it the most difficult for people with ADHD to actually get to the point of talking to someone. While people that just want Adderall can easily navigate it with their executive function fully functioning.

            It’s rough. Good luck mate.

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        Isn’t that everyone, more or less? We all need a balance between spending time with others, and time by ourselves.

        If I don’t get an appropriate amount of both on a regular basis I go crazy.

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          Its just another weird way people who are not specialists try to divide and label everyone for no clear reason to fit into their binary world, I just don’t like how its being used. There is too much simplification and generalization while every person is unique. Not saying such things as introvert/extravert should not exist, I just don’t like how its being interpreted in mass/social media

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          Most of ADHD is just “isn’t that everyone” symptoms but to a much greater and often disabling degree.

          It’s why memes and stereotypes are usually relatable to a lot of people. I wouldn’t say it’s an inaccurate thing to say. But it’s definitely too generalizing.

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          Somewhat, but specifically a sociable person who ultimately needs alone time to recharge (or time just with their partner). Some people need social interaction as their recharge, and they might not be great in their own company for too long.

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      I think it’s someone who is actually extroverted, but do to being cast out as “weird”, is now reluctant to talk to people despite their extraversion, and therefore thinks they’re introverted.

      This describes my case perfectly. I am extroverted, but due to people finding me weird, I was scared of talking to people, and mistook it for introversion. I am now way more outgoing than before once I figured it out, and people care a bit less about you being weird if you’re likeable once you’re older.

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        It might also be the other way around. There are plenty of people who are really introverted, so social engagement still drains their energy, but while it’s happening, they can be/appear extroverted, charming, outgoing, sometimes at exponential extra cost.

        The difference between intro- and extraversion is not simply the ability of a person to talk to others, their (perceived) “shyness” etc., but also encompasses how they regenerate, what and how much stimulation they prefer and what kind of company they need and enjoy.